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Old 03-23-2013, 08:37 PM
 
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Majority font really follow politics on that level to k is what's going on, as long as they have a job, place to live and so forth how they vote now is most likely how they'll continue to vote.

GOP has a major image problem that they really need to address, problem is the other sees racism in almost anything they say especially the freedom thing and the ability to get the government outta my life.
Yes the GOP has a major image problem. There are racists in the right wing but the right wing itself is not racist. It's similar to the Democrats having communists supporting them but they aren't communists. But while the idiots who try to claim the Democrats are communists are seen as being alarmist nutjobs, the people on the left who try to pain the entire right wing as inveterate racists are seen as mainstream.

Contrary to what some people say, states rights is not a code word for racism. It really is states rights. It's just the idea that the more local a government is to the people, the better that government can meet the needs of those people.

It's true that people 50 years ago used states rights to implement racist policies but that's because they were racist people, it's not because of states rights being somehow a racist concept. At the same time they were doing that, people in other states used states rights to implement all sorts of other policies. Like the people in Massachusetts implementing an Obamacare type system before it became national. The only reason that was possible is because of states rights. And it's not an issue now because we have laws against discrimination now so even if racists did take control of a local government they wouldn't be able to pass illegal laws.

They say the GOP has allocated 10 million to improve community relations but I think that's too little. Considering each side in the last election spent a billion dollars, 10 million is less than a drop in the bucket.
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This is an old research, but only an idiot would think that our elections are won by conservative or liberal voters. The people who win elections are the one who gets their base to vote as well as the independents and the moderates. Romney lost the election because he did a poor job of selling himself to the moderates.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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What you referenced was a link to a news site that gave its own interpretation of data in a gallop poll instead of the gallop poll itself. A poll that does not make your point as your argument was about Democrat vs Republican instead, you posted a poll about self identification as either a liberals or conservative.

Since all Democrats are not liberal and all republicans are not conservative, that poll is invalid on 2 points.

Here is Pew study on how many people identify as Dem or GOP, as well as those who belong to neither party, but lean one way or the other.



A Closer Look at the Parties in 2012 | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

Here is VTHokie fan's study. Those charts you gave sum to 96%. There is no way in heck 96% of voters registered as a political party (either GOP, Dem or Independent). Most do not check any affiliation because they don't want to be harassed by mail.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Good lord. The Democrats are having problems with the white vote. Liberals, not all white people are bad. I went to college in Appalachia which is overwhelmingly white...and poor, why the hate? These people aren't doing to well also, just because they're white doesn't mean times are good.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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Good lord. The Democrats are having problems with the white vote. Liberals, not all white people are bad. I went to college in Appalachia which is overwhelmingly white...and poor, why the hate? These people aren't doing to well also, just because they're white doesn't mean times are good.

And the Republicans are having problems with everyone else. This country has become extremely diverse with many different cultures which Republicans refuse to acknowledge and ignore.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Here is VTHokie fan's study. Those charts you gave sum to 96%. There is no way in heck 96% of voters registered as a political party (either GOP, Dem or Independent). Most do not check any affiliation because they don't want to be harassed by mail.


The definition of independent is NO PARTY AFFILIATION so 33% of of people do not identify with a party.

you seem to be confusing independent with independence party.

the break down is simple

35% are registered Democrats
28% are registered Republicans
33% are not registered to any party what so ever. Or what is called independent.

4% of the rest of the U.S. population are registered Green, Libertarian and so on.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Good lord. The Democrats are having problems with the white vote. Liberals, not all white people are bad. I went to college in Appalachia which is overwhelmingly white...and poor, why the hate? These people aren't doing to well also, just because they're white doesn't mean times are good.
What is the point in your trolling that hard ? I honestly want to know because there is no way you think that.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Good lord. The Democrats are having problems with the white vote. Liberals, not all white people are bad. I went to college in Appalachia which is overwhelmingly white...and poor, why the hate? These people aren't doing to well also, just because they're white doesn't mean times are good.
60-40 isn't a bad split especially when you compare it to how everyone who isn't white knows Republicans are racists with bad policies and won't vote for them. That's why Republicans can't seem to win an election.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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There are more Conservatives than there are Progressives. How they vote depends on the individual.

When the Gate Keepers throw up two Progressives, like they have last 87 years, many Conservatives don't even vote.
Progressives and liberals are 2 different things. The point i was making is that not all Democrats are liberal and not all Republicans are conservatives.

a stat about the number of self identified liberals does not correlate to the number of Democrats.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:16 PM
 
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And the Republicans are having problems with everyone else. This country has become extremely diverse with many different cultures which Republicans refuse to acknowledge and ignore.
How does the Tea Party conference on including blacks go along with your statement? How does the chairman of the Republican Party saying they are allocating ten million dollars to minority outreach agree with your statement? How does the Republican plan to send community outreach representatives into minority neighborhoods to explain to them what sorts of education and employment opportunities the Republicans support agree with your statement?
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