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FOX News probably wouldn't exist if all the other networks didn't have such a big liberal bias to them.
Seriously, it's like liberals are not aware of the fact that THEY ARE the establishment. Every other network is liberal, they all report the same things from the same perspective. Fox is the ONLY one that is conservative. That should tell you something.
The reason FOX News always wins hand over fist over the other networks is because of the fact that it's different. Sure it's biased too, but it does give some variety. It's not the same liberal garbage that is being preached to them by the other news channels.
I don't trust FOX or any major news outlet, but I do trust FOX more than the others because they do report on different things. They were the first about Benghazi, and the Obamacare site problems that the other networks tried to downplay. Most Americans are sick of the liberal bias in the media, including Hollywood. It only works on naive 20 year old college kids.
I like watching Bill O Riley, Huckabee, and Kelly. They are commentators and not journalists. I don't like Hannity, I may be a conservative like him but I find him to be rude and too much of a cheer leader for the GOP.
Wow, another right-wing spiel repeated from the right-wing bubble yet again.
Fox and the conservative media are generally the voices of corporate fascism, and their purpose is to convince Americans to embrace plutocracy. Only from a frightened far right perspective is the "establishment" owned by liberals. Haven't you noticed who owns most of America?
Here's an idea, instead of succumbing to vague terms designed to frighten you, define this "establishment" you fear so much. The term is used by RW media as a catchall to tweak the emotions of fearful conservatives.
It is known that conservatives are generally ruled by fear, and the RW media feeds it for "fun and profit". This explains a lot. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...in-study-finds
There it is. Cons like war, support a bloated military and super-expensive trillion-dollar global empire, are enamored by guns and other weapons, hate Muslims and are willing to invade Muslim countries for any trumped-up reason, respect money and people who have it.
What is the common thread here? Security. The cost? Balance it by cutting off the lower class safety net.
And hypocrisy - Benghazi got you upset? During the Bush administration there were around 60 American state department lives lost due to a number of similar skirmishes without a peep from your media heroes. Why is that? Well, Fox at the time had no political target they wanted to blame.
Here Tom Ricks exposes the real "concern" of Faux News over this and similar skirmishes. Keep in mind this interview was slated to last longer, but the Fox "reporter" wasn't getting what he wanted.
This says a lot about the real "journalism" of RW media, what its agenda is, and for whom it speaks.
Today's conservative is a scared far-right loon who can't tolerate one iota of anti-plutocracy opinion lest the reporting venue become labelled "commie socialist" for all time.
As I have pointed out previously, since the major media is corporate-conservative-owned and "liberal" equals "socialist", a "socialist corporation" is oxymoronic. The corporate media allows occasional liberal-to-moderate thought in order to appear "fair and balanced" and never goes way far left, but even this is too much for frightened conservatives.
You cannot bunch these together as "liberal media". MSNBC is the only one which directly confronts Faux News, the others play along by not doing so, thus according a measure of tacit approval.
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Originally Posted by mohawkx
Boy! did you ever hit the nail right on the head. There is a cadre of dedicated right wing posters here that all seem to have been issued their Daily "SOCO". (Single Overriding Communication Objective).
It's a real term and I used to sub for a firm that specialized in overseeing groups and individuals in delivering their SOCO, or more accurately, their propaganda. I seem to see a lot of that here in P&OC.
They have indeed. It is Roger Ailes who devises and disseminates daily talking points to most of the RW media and therefore the parrots on this forum. There is no such authoritarian "sugar daddy" on the "left" - which is not left at all.
Barry Goldwater would be considered "leftist" by the wacko Right today. More than one Foxie has accused GWB of being liberal.
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Originally Posted by no1brownsfan
Hmmmm, because MSNBC is such a reliable un-biased source too, huh lexus? As always... cool story brah!
You are no being very astute here. On a daily basis the RW media initiates the stories and talking points which MSNBC reacts to and debunks. You incorrectly see the liberal responses to and exposing of lies and misinformation as "slant" and "bias". MSNBC for instance rarely initiates a new talking point, but instead responds to one already concocted, disseminated, and being trumpeted throughout the RW media.
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Originally Posted by wjtwet
Because the left needs boogeymen to blame the problems their policies bring. The tea party , Bush , Fox allow the left to deflect from their failures. Blame it on the boogeymen and never take responsibility
You cannot blame "leftist policies" unless they are in effect. Six years of repub congressional obstructionism have kept "leftist" jobs programs, for instance, from taking effect.
Ya think the Wall Street crash of 2008 was the result of "leftist" policies? Same with the "leftist" Iraq war? How about "leftist" trickle-down economics and corporate deregulation? These are what have inflicted recent damage on America.
The teabaggers want to ruin the full faith and credit of the U.S., and more "rational" repubs, including Boehner, have recently distanced themselves from them. Can you figure out why?
Now, since you brought up the leftist "failures", explain what they are rather than merely parroting a Fox platitude.
Though MSNBC has a handful of moderate conservatives—namely Morning Joe’s Joe Scarborough—Fox stands out for the prominence it awards its on-air naysayers, many of whom occupy regular roles on the network’s most popular shows. Personalities like Kristen Powers, who made her way up through the Clinton administration and now goes head-to-head with Bill O’Reilly on nationalized healthcare (she’s for it), the death penalty (against), and the Iraq war (against). - See more at: And from the left...Fox News : Columbia Journalism Review
Apparently, MSNBC doesn't welcome conservatives into their studio as readily.
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While the liberal hosts of MSNBC often skewer conservatives, the debates happen with villains who are not in the studio: lambasted, by proxy, in news clips. At Fox, they happen in person, with a real-live liberal who is often on staff. “I still think that Fox is the one place on the cable dial for sure where that kind of freewheeling debate takes place,” said Juan Williams, who was hired as one of the network’s first progressives. “Of course I find it ironic, because it’s a network with a lot of conservative personalities.” Fox has been so supportive of the liberal Williams that he has even guest-hosted The O’Reilly Factor, the network’s top-rated show. Williams attributes his good ratings to surprise: “I think the audience is like, ‘Oh, he’s there tonight. I’m used to arguing with him. How is this going to work?’” It’s hard to imagine a conservative subbing in for Rachel Maddow.
According to Maddow MSNBC keeps asking right wingers to appear on the show - but they decline. Scaredy cats that prefer the Fox echo chamber where they aren't challenged.
According to Maddow MSNBC keeps asking right wingers to appear on the show - but they decline. Scaredy cats that prefer the Fox echo chamber where they aren't challenged.
According to Maddow MSNBC keeps asking right wingers to appear on the show - but they decline. Scaredy cats that prefer the Fox echo chamber where they aren't challenged.
I think it's more about not wanting to stoop to a ridiculous level. The debate is elevated when a liberal steps on the Fox set, that's why they show up.
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