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If the "left" wish to "get their message out", let them make the necessary financial investments to do so - just like the "right" did. I mean, wouldn't Soros help - a few billion would not be missed I'm sure
Well, at least you admit that the media are under right-wing control. It would seem that a group such as MoveOn can't even advertise in them...
What about [partial list] Accuracy in Academia, African-American Life Alliance, All Children Matter, Alliance Defense Fund, American Center for Law and Justice, American Civil Rights Institute, American Conservative Union, American Enterprise Institute, American Family Association, American Legislative Exchange Council, American Life League, American Society for Tradition, Family and Property, Americans for Tax Reform, Arlington Group, Black America's Political Action Committee, Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Campaign for Working Families, Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, Cato Institute, Center for the Study of Popular Culture, Christian Coalition of America, Christian Legal Society, Club for Growth, Collegiate Network, Coalition for a Fair Judiciary, Committee for Justice, Concerned Women for America, Eagle Forum, Eagle Forum Collegians, Family Research Council, Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies, Focus on the Family, FRCAction, Free Congress Research and Education Foundation, FreedomWorks, Heritage Foundation, High Impact Leadership Coalition, Hispanic Alliance for Progress Institute, Hoover Institution on War, Revolution, and Peace, Independent Women's Forum, Institute for Justice, Intercollegiate Studies Institute, Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration, Judicial Confirmation Network, Landmark Legal Foundation, Leadership Institute, Mackinac Center for Public Policy, Madison Project, Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, National Association of Scholars, National Center for Policy Analysis, National Right to Life Committee, National Taxpayers Union, New Coalition for Economic and Social Change, Pioneer Institute for Public Policy Research, State Policy Network, Students for Academic Freedom, Toward Tradition, Traditional Values Coalition, WallBuilders, or Young America's Foundation?
We don't even have to go into the WSJ_EP, the NY Post, the Washington Times, or the majority of other US newspapers that is conservative. No need to mention the likes of drudge, townhall.com, Newsmax, Worldnetdaily, or any of the nodes along the right-wing Christian WebRing that seek to poison the well with the sheer volume of what they put up.
Wake up and smell the coffee. They don't call it The Echo Chamber because poor Fox, Rush, and Sean are so alone out there...
Wow, being a conservative I've never heard of 95% of those on your list.Maybe because a lot of them are christian and I'm anti-religion ( the one area where I and conservatism differ greatly), They CAN'T be too well known! And you saying the majority of newspapers being conservative is just ludicrous.
As for the "WebRing", I did mention that if it wasn't for the internet, the conservative message would have a hard time getting out because of what USED to be a liberal monolopy on the media. That's what the liberals hate so much, FINALLY the conservative message is getting out there.
We have a situation right now in which there are several major parts of the news media that are for all practical purposes part of "movement conservatism" -- Fox News, the New York Post, the Washington Times -- and in which other news organizations are intimidated, at least to some extent.
Notice that Fox News, Fox Broadcasting Company, the New York Post, and soon the Wall Street Journal are owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. How much media (especially in NYC) does he want (or need) to own?
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The Fairness Doctrine worked rather well for 50 years. When a right-wing FCC killed it, Congress passed it into statute, but Reagan vetoed it. Then they passed it again, and Poppy vetoed it. Meanwhile, in 1983, the largest 50 companies controlled half of all US media outlets. By 2004, that number was 5. So you have a small number of voices monopolizing the airwaves that technically belong to all of us. How again is that in the public interest, which is the standard by which those airwaves are to be governed...
Apparently the Right and the so-called "Free-Marketeers" promote the Corporate Socialism doctrine say that broadcast stations are there to make a profit and only to make a profit. Forget public service even though they use the public airwaves to make a profit. Remember that Blackwater (?) guy asking the congressman "What's wrong with making a profit out of war?" That should tell you how low their morals really are.
Wow, being a conservative I've never heard of 95% of those on your list.
They don't care whether you've heard of them. They care whether you've heard their positions...over and over and over again. They know what happens next.
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And you saying the majority of newspapers being conservative is just ludicrous.
Powerful argument.
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As for the "WebRing", I did mention that if it wasn't for the internet, the conservative message would have a hard time getting out because of what USED to be a liberal monolopy on the media. That's what the liberals hate so much, FINALLY the conservative message is getting out there.
Propaganda is not much of a message. The actual conservative message has been around for millenia. It's gotten plenty of air-play...
Propaganda is not much of a message. The actual conservative message has been around for millenia. It's gotten plenty of air-play...
On excellent quality AM blowtorches or good quality regionals. Houston doesn't have a blowtorch, only few good quality regionals that have some interference at night. The locals and smaller stations have millions of interference at night. You can't listen to AM at night anywhere anymore thanks to the FCC. Those regionals are owned by big corporations and are very expensive to acquire. Clear Channel owns the top two stations and they only play Talk all-day, even if one says NewsRadio. The news only comes in the mornings, with live local updates everyhour. The other station has news every hour from the FOX News network with a 1 minute local news add-on. No CBS or ABC radio news here. Those big networks can't exist here in limited supply, staticky, interference-prone Houston. The locals have spotty coverage even during the day. It's too late to come into the radio scene unless you're loaded or willing to settle with something mediocre.
The Catholic Radio venture was not very successful in Houston due to the signal of that low-powered station in Galveston. In the Western suburbs, I could barely hear it during the day and it was totally gone at night. Can you imagine Air America also doing the same thing in Houston that they have done in other markets? That's the only way they can come to radio but also a recipe for failure because of static and sound quality.
Hopefully the internet is the future. Apparently the anti-net neutrality people are trying to keep people out of the net and stuck on corporate radio, TV, and newspapers as the only source.
Net neutrality is a very serious issue. It used to be an assumption. Who knows where the Money Is The Goal and Trumps Everything Else people will take it next...
The Fox News Network is tilted to the right, as is much of talk radio. I hate to call talk radio news, but the fact is many people do listen regularly and get their news from conservative talk show hosts.
But the conservative republican party that we see today, it's days are numbered. Just look at the demographic shifts occurring in the United States. The single largest growing political block in the country today are the Hispanics. And most of them vote democratic, and by a huge margin. Add in the inevitable amnesty that's going to legalize 5 to 10 million and the political shift becomes even greater.
Plus, most right-wing conservatives are white, and the white race is drastically shrinking as a percentage of the population. So much so that in another 30 or 40 years white people will be a minority in this country.
So the right wing media, like the conservative wing of the republican party itself, will either shift somewhat left towards the center, or it will disappear altogether. And in almost every national election we have from here on out the democratic party will become stronger and stronger. As that happens the right wing media will garner less and less influence over national politics.
The Fox News Network is tilted to the right, as is much of talk radio. I hate to call talk radio news, but the fact is many people do listen regularly and get their news from conservative talk show hosts.
But the conservative republican party that we see today, it's days are numbered. Just look at the demographic shifts occurring in the United States. The single largest growing political block in the country today are the Hispanics. And most of them vote democratic, and by a huge margin. Add in the inevitable amnesty that's going to legalize 5 to 10 million and the political shift becomes even greater.
Plus, most right-wing conservatives are white, and the white race is drastically shrinking as a percentage of the population. So much so that in another 30 or 40 years white people will be a minority in this country.
So the right wing media, like the conservative wing of the republican party itself, will either shift somewhat left towards the center, or it will disappear altogether. And in almost every national election we have from here on out the democratic party will become stronger and stronger. As that happens the right wing media will garner less and less influence over national politics.
Hawkeye I think your analysis is right on. One caveat though - while you are correct that the Hispanic vote (and that of all minorities and women overall) is significantly Democratic, there had been a trend towards Republicans with Bush by Hispanics in the last Presidential election. The whole amnesty broohaha and a lot of the racism that accompanied the debate has been shown to turn off the legal Hispanics ...so they are now moving back trending more than 2-1 Democratic. Had amnesty passed, the Republicans might have ended up in better shape. They may have cut their own throats with that whole episode.
Propaganda is not much of a message. The actual conservative message has been around for millenia. It's gotten plenty of air-play...
I love how only any conservative message is propaganda. Never any left leaning messages. What a laugh.
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