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Old 03-27-2013, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Mille Fin
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How is it sick?

Brothels are legal in some places and if the establishment puts out a job offer and you are on welfare, then how can you turn it down?

let's have some consistency.

No what you're arguing for is a completely inflexible, 2-dimensional system fit for a society that cannot embrace complex solutions. Just because society tolerates prostitution to an extent, it does not mean it must include it on list of jobs unemployed people must accept if they are to continue surviving. I wouldn't want a person with a fear of flying to be forced to accept a job as a flight attendant, either.

The form of reasoning you've employed is too childlike to be taken seriously. I guess on a philosophical level it's an interesting musing, but it sounds like you're saying you'd actually support such a measure... which again, is sick.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:45 AM
 
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If a job is legal then a claimant has no right to turn it down if they wish to continue receiving welfare.

You have failed to say why prostitution is a special case.

This is a simple task to perform, no skills required and a high level of supply and demand, just like the proverbial burger flipper.

No work = no foodstamps.

No exceptions - why make a special case for this particular type of manual work?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:47 AM
 
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If a job is legal then a claimant has no right to turn it down if they wish to continue receiving welfare.

You have failed to say why prostitution is a special case.

This is a simple task to perform, no skills required and a high level of supply and demand, just like the proverbial burger flipper.

No work = no foodstamps.

No exceptions - why make a special case for this particular type of manual work?
Assuming your gender is irrelevant would you perform sex acts for money if mandated by the government? I wouldn't. Would you?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:59 AM
 
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No welfare money for you then.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:00 AM
 
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No welfare money for you then.
I am not on welfare never have been. Would you have anal sex with men if requested by the government ? Just wondering.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Mille Fin
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
If a job is legal then a claimant has no right to turn it down if they wish to continue receiving welfare.

You have failed to say why prostitution is a special case.

This is a simple task to perform, no skills required and a high level of supply and demand, just like the proverbial burger flipper.

No work = no foodstamps.

No exceptions - why make a special case for this particular type of manual work?
You want me to spell it out for you? Sex as a form of labor has the potential to be extremely hazardous to the mental health of those involved. Countless studies have shown this.

How many studies have shown burger flipping to be linked to 19X higher suicide rates?

Did you really have to have this pointed out to you?
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:17 AM
 
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You want me to spell it out for you? Sex as a form of labor has the potential to be extremely hazardous to the mental health of those involved. Countless studies have shown this.

How many studies have shown burger flipping to be linked to 19X higher suicide rates?

Did you really have to have this pointed out to you?
What is the difference between a woman wanting a man to take her to the club, buy drinks, and take her to dinner before sex and a woman that wants money before sex? It's the same thing. The only difference is the prostitute is honest about what she wants beforehand.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What reeks liberty more than a statement like, "made to accept" ??

Forcing anything, on anyone is not liberty, that is tyranny.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:42 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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One has to APPLY for a job to be offered one, and then to have the option of accepting or rejecting. They don't force you to apply for every job available, they only force you to accept reasonable offers - and in some states, request a job search log to prove you're going for something. Furthermore, you only have to accept jobs that pay within a certain percentage of your previous salary, at least until you hit the federal tiers.

I was on UI for a short time after getting laid off in 2009, so I know all of this from my experience. Here in California, they don't even request job search logs until federal level benefits (which I never reached). So no, I doubt they would care if you weren't taking prostitute work.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:50 AM
 
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You want me to spell it out for you? Sex as a form of labor has the potential to be extremely hazardous to the mental health of those involved. Countless studies have shown this.

Did you really have to have this pointed out to you?
Many other jobs are also mentally hazardous - perhaps working as a drug counsellor or psychiatric nurse could be equally as challenging.

How about hazardous manual work such as mining.

Why not show me exactly why having sex for a living should be given a special exemption here.
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