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Haha, of course I wouldn't rely solely on the NRA to gut UBC legislation; rather, I was just hoping to provoke left-wing spazoids into splashing this forum with hysterical tirades against the NRA and gun owners in general.
No, the only thing that can gut the UBC law are legislators, some of whom, sadly, can't necessarily be trusted not to lend political support to an innocuous-sounding piece of legislation that a majority-party (at least in one legislative chamber) may support. My Senators are two red-state Democrats who, frankly, should never be trusted to break too sharply away from their party's agenda. My Congressman, however, is a sure vote against it--hopefully the House can kill this atrocity if it passes the Senate.
Scary $#!t either way.
Ahhh, well you are in a prime spot then. Those red state dems have the power to make or break this thing. If I were you, I'd be contacting them daily, or at least weekly.
Ahhh, well you are in a prime spot then. Those red state dems have the power to make or break this thing. If I were you, I'd be contacting them daily, or at least weekly.
No they don't this is all BS and illegal......Guns are not going anywhere soon....
No they don't this is all BS and illegal......Guns are not going anywhere soon....
Don't lull yourself in to a false sense of security Mac.... Thats about like saying "oh, theres no way Obama is going to win again after the cluster**** of his first term, I'm not going to go vote"
That's unfortunate. We have severe problems in this country with gun violence and the gun control measures should only be the tip of the iceberg. We have to change our entire culture as it pertains to our outlook on guns and violence and murder. Gun control is the bandaid while the major work gets started.
Sadly, like most things with this country, we get locked in BS arguments and turn everything into political nonsense and we don't get better as a society.
How is today's murder rate in the USA the lowest since 1992 if we have severe problems with gun violence?
That trend began before the 1994-2004 AWB and has continued in the nine years after the ban. In that time gun ownership has grown to an estimated at 310 million firearms.
That's unfortunate. We have severe problems in this country with gun violence and the gun control measures should only be the tip of the iceberg. We have to change our entire culture as it pertains to our outlook on guns and violence and murder. Gun control is the bandaid while the major work gets started.
Sadly, like most things with this country, we get locked in BS arguments and turn everything into political nonsense and we don't get better as a society.
we dont have a serious problem with gun violence, we have a serious problem with criminals. start giving firearms to more people that are not criminals and see crime go down.
Don't lull yourself in to a false sense of security Mac.... Thats about like saying "oh, theres no way Obama is going to win again after the cluster**** of his first term, I'm not going to go vote"
I agree--just because gun ownership has found itsef standing on very strong political footing for the last decade or so, it doesn't mean that such an environment is indefinite (the political activity observed over the last three months has illustrated very clearly that our 2A rights remain extremely vulnerable).
Do not forget the 30-or-so days that followed Newtown, when on a daily basis it was made very clear by certain factions of the media and political classes (not to mention a slew of morons here on City-Data) that firearm registration (under the guise of "universal background checks), confiscation, stringent licensing requirements, fingerprinting, ammunition limitations, psychological screening, mandatory insurance possession, mandatory buybacks, etc., are the central characteristics of the gun control camp's agenda.
These tyrants aren't going anywhere, people--suppressing them is only going to get harder (yet remains very possible).
I agree--just because gun ownership has found itsef standing on very strong political footing for the last decade or so, it doesn't mean that such an environment is indefinite (the political activity observed over the last three months has illustrated very clearly that our 2A rights remain extremely vulnerable).
Do not forget the 30-or-so days that followed Newtown, when on a daily basis it was made very clear by certain factions of the media and political classes (not to mention a slew of morons here on City-Data) that firearm registration (under the guise of "universal background checks), confiscation, stringent licensing requirements, fingerprinting, ammunition limitations, psychological screening, mandatory insurance possession, mandatory buybacks, etc., are the central characteristics of the gun control camp's agenda.
These tyrants aren't going anywhere, people--suppressing them is only going to get harder (yet remains very possible).
my family and I will never go along with those schemes, and some states shall not go along with them either.
I would rather be considered a criminal than give up a right. when the gun control crowd goes too far, they will find out from an armed populace what it finally means to cross that line in the sand.
The right for gun control is not over, it is actually just beginning. The was always and will always be at the state level. The federal nonsense was just a dog and pony show. The real fight is in California, New York, Calorado and the Court system. I predict SCOTUS will take another gun case next session, since the lower courts are pretty much ignoring the previous two SCOTUS rulings.
The right for gun control is not over, it is actually just beginning. The was always and will always be at the state level. The federal nonsense was just a dog and pony show. The real fight is in California, New York, Calorado and the Court system. I predict SCOTUS will take another gun case next session, since the lower courts are pretty much ignoring the previous two SCOTUS rulings.
The new case may be Maryland's (non)issuance of CCWs. A lower Court ruling directing the State to revamp its process to be less onerous and exclusive was just overturned by another Court and MD is back to "may issue".
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