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Old 03-28-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The President had plenty of Bipartisan Congressional Support in geting this law through! In fact this law was almost passed by Acclamation in Congress which is a rarity these days. Who says the American system doesn't work when the Moon, Stars and Planets align and the primal forces of nature (Corporate Power) gets behind something.
When neither side has to give up anything and can get their little pork projects passed there is always bipartisianship and little to no debate.

These are the stories that fly under the radar with little fanfare from the MSM. To only read the MSM you'd think that Congress never agrees on anything and the President hasn't signed a bill passed by Congress in months.

Couldn't be further from the truth.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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And here's another tidbit about Monsanto seeds which drive up food costs.
Farmers using Monsanto seed are not allowed to save seeds from their plants for future use.
Monsanto seed licenses prohibit seed saving and require farmers to buy new seeds from them every year.

They've also taken farmers to court who have saved seeds from their crops and won.
wow, real eye opener. How did they get so powerful?!!
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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ok whats our best defense? Eat no corn, wheats, or soy??? How can we win with our eating habits? And what about veggies they are grown from seeds? Organic only?
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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Just for the heck of it we will note.....of the 26 Nay votes, 25 were (R)'s.

The chair of the committee that secretly slipped this provision into the bill was Sen. Barbara Mikulski, an absolute traitor to America for allowing the Monsanto Protection Act to become law. She could have stopped it, yet she did nothing to oppose it. She actually helped sneak it into law.

Like nearly all U.S. senators, Mikulski is now operating as an outright enemy of the People while selling out to corporate interests who are peddling poison and death.

There is hardly a U.S. senator remaining who respects his or her oath of office. While Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are showing real courage in the face of federal tyranny and oppression -- and Sen. Ron Wyden honestly tries to protect the people of Oregon from outrageous federal aggression -- most senators are now little more than corporate puppets who obey the bidding of their masters.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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ok whats our best defense? Eat no corn, wheats, or soy??? How can we win with our eating habits? And what about veggies they are grown from seeds? Organic only?
To argue that we have to do more than simply plant the seeds that were planted for hundreds of years is certainly an arguable position. We will certainly have to look at things we haven't in the past to feed everyone and while it's possible that this is nothing but hyperbole it's what is being reported. I'm open to other opinions here but based upon what is being posted, this is the problem.

The Monsanto Protection Act, part of the HR 933 continuing resolution, allows Monsanto to override U.S. federal courts on the issue of planting experimental genetically engineered crops all across the country. Even if those experimental crops are found to be extremely dangerous or to cause a runaway crop plague, the U.S. government now has no judicial power to stop them from being planted and harvested.

As ibtimes.com reports, the bill "effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of GMO or GE crops and seeds, no matter what health consequences from the consumption of these products may come to light in the future."
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:53 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Been that way for quite awhile, will never change.

Too many of us have gotten complacent. Sad indeed.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So here's the thing, smittyjohnny.

Does it bother me that Obama signed this? Yes. Yes it does. I'm not really a "liberal" nor an "Obama voter", but I do have high expectations for the man.

But look at who pushed the damned thing -- a Missouri Republican. This makes Democrats look inept, sure, but it makes Republicans look evil.

I'm not saying you had any credibility to begin with, don't get me wrong -- but you're squarely in negative territory if you think the blame lies solely on the president.
Take one step back and look who submitted that damned thing....a Maryland Democrat.
And she didn't even bring it up for debate.
Tester filed an amendment to strip her amendment and his never came up for debate.

Monsanto has contributed over $500K to members of Congress via PACs.

Monsanto Rider Passes in Budget Bill
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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The big issues is the experimental fields. In the past Monsanto had to insure that seeds didn't escape their experimental fields and that cost lots of money and mistakes did happen.

Now they can experiment all they want with no legal recourse for any "mistakes" that escape into mother nature and either take over or mutate.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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To argue that we have to do more than simply plant the seeds that were planted for hundreds of years is certainly an arguable position. We will certainly have to look at things we haven't in the past to feed everyone and while it's possible that this is nothing but hyperbole it's what is being reported. I'm open to other opinions here but based upon what is being posted, this is the problem.

The Monsanto Protection Act, part of the HR 933 continuing resolution, allows Monsanto to override U.S. federal courts on the issue of planting experimental genetically engineered crops all across the country. Even if those experimental crops are found to be extremely dangerous or to cause a runaway crop plague, the U.S. government now has no judicial power to stop them from being planted and harvested.

As ibtimes.com reports, the bill "effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of GMO or GE crops and seeds, no matter what health consequences from the consumption of these products may come to light in the future."
Reading this is crazy!! I dont care if R's or D's voted for this, the reading that you gave me basically says they can kill us. Its crazy, im speechless. So no avoiding it from what I can see. Yes I do understand your hyperbole statement. Hopefully thats the answer hyperbole.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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So far, the court seems to be siding with Monsanto. Chief Justice John Roberts asked, "why in the world would anybody" invest time and money on seeds if it was so easy to evade patent protection. The Obama Administration also filed a brief backing Monsanto (the USDA is filled with former Monsanto people ).

Monsanto Sneaks Into Budget Bill, Faces Farmer in Supreme Court
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