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Old 03-29-2013, 01:21 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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So you're saying you wish to legislate the capacity to fire 15 rounds per minute, am I right?
Magazine capacity and rounds per minute are completely different things.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:23 AM
 
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So you're saying you wish to legislate the capacity to fire 15 rounds per minute, am I right?
I'll let the gun experts figure that out. I was just answering your question on what does an assault gun mean in practical terms, and to me, as a lay person, it means a gun that allows you to rapidly shoot 155 bullets in less than 5 minutes.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:24 AM
 
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Magazine capacity and rounds per minute are completely different things.
I know they are but there are a few main properties that I see that are practical when talking about the gun.

They are:

Range
Accuracy
Rate of fire
Ammunition type


In practical terms, a high reload time affects the rate of fire.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:26 AM
 
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I'll let the gun experts figure that out. I was just answering your question on what does an assault gun mean in practical terms, and to me, as a lay person, it means a gun that allows you to rapidly shoot 155 bullets in less than 5 minutes.
My bad then, you wish to regulate the ability to fire 30 rounds per minute then?
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:31 AM
 
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My bad then, you wish to regulate the ability to fire 30 rounds per minute then?
Well does that seem reasonable to you? I think the gun-owners on this thread should be telling us more about what differentiates weapons developed for military use from those developed for civilians.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:35 AM
 
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Well does that seem reasonable to you? I think the gun-owners on this thread should be telling us more about what differentiates weapons developed for military use from those developed for civilians.
Absolutely. In a world of high-fire-rate guns, I would not want people defending their home be defending themselves with a slow gun.

Furthermore, since it is you who wishes to take away the ability of certain gun owners to have certain guns, it is you who should be telling them why it's not right for them to have that gun.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:42 AM
 
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Absolutely. In a world of high-fire-rate guns, I would not want people defending their home be defending themselves with a slow gun.

Furthermore, since it is you who wishes to take away the ability of certain gun owners to have certain guns, it is you who should be telling them why it's not right for them to have that gun.
I don't have a strong personal opinion on type of guns that should or shouldn't be restricted. Most firearm homicide is with hand guns.

I'm more interested in universal background checks, preventing illegal trafficking and straw purchases, safe storage of guns, preventing guns from falling into the hands of children, and protecting victims of domestic violence from firearm violence.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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By practical terms I mean the properties that matter:

Range
Accuracy
Rate of fire
Ammunition type


...There are a few definitions of the assault weapons as it relates to laws, but what does it translate to in useful terms?
If it's rate of fire, this assault revolver is it...

World Record 12 Shots In Under 3 Seconds - YouTube
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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So there is no category of guns that is commonly considered an assault gun?
The term "assault rifle" was initially made up by Adolf Hitler for propaganda purposes. So, our current leftists who like to use it for the exact same purpose are certainly in good company.


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The name was chosen personally by Adolf Hitler for propaganda reasons and literally means "storm rifle" as in "to storm (i.e. "assault") an enemy position". After the adoption of the StG 44, the English translation "assault rifle" became the accepted designation for this type of infantry small arm.

StG 44 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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"Lanza fired the 154 rounds from a Bushmaster .223-model rifle and the final bullet from a Glock 10mm handgun to take his own life, said Stephen Sedensky, the chief prosecutor investigating the shooting. Police recovered 10 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster that Lanza took to the school. Three of the magazines had a full 30 rounds still in them."

So is the Bushmaster the type of assault weapon that was previously banned under Clinton?


Investigators: Adam Lanza surrounded by weapons at home; attack took less than 5 minutes - Open Channel
CT currenty has an assault weapons ban which mirrors the previous 1994 ban. Under the ban this gun is not an assault weapon:

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