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Old 03-29-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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This is an admission that the current situation doesn't work. The adjunct professor can't afford to buy insurance on his own, doesn't currently get health care coverage through work, and won't get coverage through work because they've cut his hours. Based on the numbers above (2000/40000) he's only working about 30-31 hours/week now and this will be cut to 29.
The only upside is that under the ACA he will get tax credits to make insurance affordable.

The ACA is a bastard compromise bill that adopted the Republicans individual mandate idea thinking that they would vote for it seeing as they liked it in the past. Didn't think that Republicans would flip on their own positions just to torpedo Obama. We would have been better off with a clean universal healthcare proposal.
Here we go again. They didn't get or need a single Republican vote for it. They had to make compromises to get enough (D)'s to vote for it.

Just another example of someone who simply can't place the blame where it belongs. These kind of problems were seen long before a vote and predicted by many. Why would any thinking politician vote for that?
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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They didn't know the IRS would redefine full time so that employers would have to offer insurance.
Obamacare was passed with 40 hours being full time and part time workers exempt.

The government pulled a fast one last year and thought employers would roll over and comply.
They couldn't have been more wrong in that thinking.

FWIW a member of Congress has filed a bill to negate the IRS ruling and put 40 hours back as being full time status.
WTH! I knew it. Everybody I know knew it.

Is that going to be the go-to excuse? "We didn't know......."?

Sorry. That won't fly.

Elections really do have consequences.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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They specifically bought Ben Neslon. What has he been up to since voting for this puke bill and not running in '12 because he would have been run to the curb??

Tim Carney: Ex-Sen. Ben Nelson cashes in on his Obamacare vote | WashingtonExaminer.com

Lesson learned is to not elect democrats to begin with.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Looks like the academy is finally getting a lesson in the costs of big government liberalism.
Fantastic.

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The bigger the mess the ACA is the closer we get to single payer.The sooner the better.
You'll be sorry. I can't wait to see your face when someone you care about dies waiting for treatment.

But, hey, at least you'll have single-payer, right? And that's all that matters, right? One day you will learn that not everything is free, and "something is better than nothing" isn't true at all.

Wishing...


Mircea
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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Let them eat cake.

That goes for you obama supporting "working poor" who will have their hours cut back.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Same article was vetted back in November:

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Old 03-29-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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No, professors, you don't know everything. Yes, you are reaping what you've sown (by voting for Mr. Obama and his healthcare). You have no one to blame but yourselves. Stop thinking that you are untouchable and sit at the pinnacle of the universe in your ivory universities.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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The bigger the mess the ACA is the closer we get to single payer.The sooner the better.
That is the end game all along. Wise up. Government makes it as hard as they can for people and we will go begging for single payer, universal health care or what is known as Obamacare. See how it will work? Those people up on the hill aren't paid outrageous salaries for nothing, you know. They get the cadillac health care and we get the shaft socialism health care.
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The bigger the mess the ACA is the closer we get to single payer.The sooner the better.
So then all competition will vanish. There will be no outside pressure left to get better, only pressure to avoid punishment.

With single payer, the only pressure the people running it will feel, is to reduce costs.

This is what produces rationing. And cutbacks. And loooong lines.

GREAT plan.

Leftists never consider these things when singing their praises for single-payer.

Those professors who just got their hours cut back, have barely BEGUN to learn how Obamacare will affect them.

Too bad they didn't learn it back when they were still able to vote against it.

The bad news is, now they will drag all the rest of us down with them.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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The government will pay doctors to see 10 patients a day. The doctors will see that many and only that many---why work for free---then they go golfing the rest of the day like they do in Brazil now.

You want to see a doctor now? Too bad, you will wait your turn.
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