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This person taught at 3 different colleges with a total of 7 courses being taught by him in one semester. In short, he was an adjunct at 3 different colleges at the same time. He was not a full time employee at at Stark State College (only taught 2 courses there, now down to 1). It appears that the other 2 places he taught at did not offer health insurance at all.
Again, health insurance for adjuncts is very rare.
There is no liberal agenda. Adjuncts have always been treated as cannon fodder. It is NOT a career. This poor person worked at the equivalent of Walmart, BurgerKing and McDonalds all at the same time. His teaching work-load is insane.
In fact, if I were him I'd have gone to a high school 15-20 years ago and built myself a credible career rather than this nothing hole that he has dug for himself. Hmmm, now that I think about it he might've done much better at 1 of those 3 places over that time.
Adjuncts would never be confused by having a course cut. They have no job security. Why are you not understanding this?
Oh, I understand fine, but you seem to think that since adjuncts already have uncertainty in their work makes them perfectly expendable. I mean what the hell does job safety has to do with this to begin with?. So they don't have too much job security, what's your point?. That is fine to screw them over?
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From the WSJ article: "Mr. Balla, a 41-year-old father of two, had taught seven English composition classes last semester, split between Stark State and two other area schools.This semester, his course load at Stark State is down to one instead of two as a result of the school's new limit on hours, cutting his salary by about a total of $2,000."
Two classes does not come anywhere close to 29-hours. Cutting his course load from two classes to one has nothing to do with him coming anywhere close to 15 hours of work let alone 29, and therefore has ZERO to do with Obamacare
From WSJ :
In Ohio, instructor Robert Balla faces a new cap on the number of hours he can teach at Stark State College. In a Dec. 6 letter, the North Canton school told him that "in order to avoid penalties under the Affordable Care Act…employees with part-time or adjunct status will not be assigned more than an average of 29 hours per week."
Mr. Balla, a 41-year-old father of two, had taught seven English composition classes last semester, split between Stark State and two other area schools. This semester, his course load at Stark State is down to one instead of two as a result of the school's new limit on hours, cutting his salary by about a total of $2,000."
Doesn't matter what you say, spin or cherry pick. His salary will be cut by $2,000 a year and its due to Obamacare. Nothing you have said invalidates that. Unless you think he is lying?
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It isn't liberals calling for the slashing of university budgets. Liberals would have adjuncts treated as real teachers who can making a living teaching at one school. You think that conservatives would ever allow that? No way. The rise of the adjunct goes hand-in-hand with the lack of support for higher education, as the WSJ article makes clear:
"For decades, colleges and universities have cut costs by hiring adjuncts instead of tenured or tenure-track faculty. In 1975, adjuncts made up 43% of the faculty at U.S. colleges. By 2009, that number had climbed to nearly 70%.
What the hell are you talking about?. Moving the goalpost are we?. Because what the hell does Conservative thought on universities budgets have to due with the fact that adjuncts will have their opportunities cut? Enough spin already.
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Road to utopia? What the hell are you even talking about?
That utopia left-wingers seem to think we can get to if we pass enough laws and spend enough of other people's money.
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Robert never taught just at one school. He taught two classes at that college and now will be teaching one. He wasn't anywhere close to working 29 hours.
Whatever the case may be, the man stated his salary will be cut by $2,000, in his own words. The school itself issued a statement saying part-time and adjuncts will get no more then 29hrs. Why issue such a statement if no one was working more then 29hrs?. But I guess all of these things that happened in the real world can be spun away in your head.
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Being an adjunct is agreeing to exploitation at the hands of the university system. Robert shouldn't do it. But he is and he'll just pick up another class at another school, like he is use to doing. But the fact that he has to do that has nothing to do with Obamacare.
Yes it does, it's been stated, quoted, in the bloody headlines of the articles. No amount of spin and denial is going to change that. You might see it as exploitation, others don't. I mean some think prostitution is female "empowerment" . Whatever. Why should others have to work around your ideology?. Because this man is in a position you don't hold in a high regard means its acceptable for him to have to adapt to whatever it is your ideology demands?.
Well these professors thought they were above all that obamacare stuff. They are also mostly liberals so have brain damage that causes them to think they are smarter than everybody else. What is happening is exactly what many have said would happen from the time this entire obamacare debate started and liberals are just shocked.
Yes, very likely they assumed Obama would exempt liberals like themselves and the filthy rich Hollywood celebrities and just go after the taxpaying middle class types.
And the problem with so many of the professors, there are no other jobs they are qualified to do.
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What goes around, comes around.
Academics who were so pleased that their theories of how the world "should" run are finally being put in place, are as surprised as such people usually are to find their ideals don't work in the real world.
The only thing I wonder about is:
How many times do we have to keep trying this? How many repeats of people being shocked, shocked do we have to go through, before we can finally get back to doing things they ways they actually work?
Confused professors shocked schools are cutting their hours to avoid Obamacare penalties
Marc Thiessen | January 23, 2013, 9:46 am
Barack Obama is a former adjunct professor of constitutional law, and no group has been more solidly supportive of his liberal agenda than the professorial class. So it is a sweet irony that the latest group getting hammered by the mandates of Obamacare are … wait for it … adjunct professors.
The federal health-care overhaul is prompting some colleges and universities to cut the hours of adjunct professors. [...] The Affordable Care Act requires large employers to offer a minimum level of health insurance to employees who work 30 hours a week or more starting in 2014, or face a penalty. The mandate is a particular challenge for colleges and universities, which increasingly rely on adjuncts to help keep costs down as states have scaled back funding for higher education.
You can just imagine the outraged conversations in the faculty lounge now: “We’re professors. I thought stuff like this only happened to manual laborers at Wendy’s and Taco Bell!”
Looks like the academy is finally getting a lesson in the costs of big government liberalism.
so, not one example of a single school that says it cutting adjunct hours because of Obamacare.
The only thing this article does is jump to conclusions
"Hours were cut so its Obamacares fault" LOL
never mind the fact that you can google the prof mentioned in the article.
Most adjuncts haven't had health insurance for eons. Hardly any, in fact. That's what you don't get, even though it's been explained to you over and over again.
Yeah, I know, because when Walmart doesn't offer (enough) benefits, 'for eons', that's one thing; but adjuncts... and the university, well, that's another story.
Adjuncts aren't losing their healthcare because only a tiny tiny fraction of adjuncts even receive health care through their jobs. Try reading the original source of the article rather than a neoconservative think tank's propaganda.
From the Wall Street Journal article:
"Many of the adjuncts have other careers in their subject areas, and teach only a single class each semester. But a sizable number make their living from teaching, and have to pay for their own health insurance. Most adjuncts who don't receive coverage through their employer will be eligible for subsidized insurance starting in 2014 through new exchanges set up by the federal health-care law."
Yes, losing their health care - at a few of the very small number of schools, mostly public and mostly with unionized faculties, that offered or had been forced by their faculty union to offer benefits to adjunct lecturers in the first place. The large majority of universities and colleges offer no benefits at all to adjunct "professors", which for the most part are Ph.D.s who haven't managed to land a full-time job and probably never will, and who are paid next to nothing to lecture in the vague general direction of your idiot children. The real professors, a tiny and diminishing elite who for the most part couldn't give a monkey's for the scuzzy adjuncts, typically have gold-plated benefit packages and iron-clad job security once tenured, and are basically impervious to anything in the ACA.
Again, the idea was not that people would get put into a position to lose their health care. We need to note again, not only are they losing their health care, they are getting their hours cut.
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