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Old 03-29-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Not in Saudi Arabia they dont. Did you even look at the link I provided?

Who the hell said crap to you about class warfare? We're arguing that GOVERNMENT owning means of production is NOT right wing ideology..
I'm seriously about to just end this because you're pretending to not understand my words. I'll be as clear as possible here.

Income tax= 2.5%. It is a flat rate. The rich guy's income tax rate is 2.5%. The poor guy's rate is 2.5%. Same rate.

Who said crap to me about class warfare? You. You said I ignore the richest at the top and pretend they don't exist. Corporations pay taxes, but the people that own them do not pay more than the 2.5% of their income.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So what?

The corporate tax rate is 45% for most businesses.

Capital gains taxes are up to 30%.

And they don't have an income tax.

That 2.5% you are talking about is a tax on net wealth.

Foreign companies that do business in Saudi also pay extra taxes.
No, corporate taxes are 20%, but since the royal family owns the oil industry, they don't pay anything. Basically they would be paying to themselves.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You are talking to someone who will never, ever admit being wrong. Obviously he is not aware that the royal family in SA is the government. There is no other government, and most of the government programs are financed by the royal family charity.
I'm starting to learn that about him as this discussion continues. I tried to extend an olive branch with him since the argument was pointless and we both agreed, but he kept on going.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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You are talking to someone who will never, ever admit being wrong. Obviously he is not aware that the royal family in SA is the government. There is no other government, and most of the government programs are financed by the royal family charity.
The current king didnt become king until 25 years AFTER the government bought out the oil companies.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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No, corporate taxes are 20%, but since the royal family owns the oil industry, they don't pay anything. Basically they would be paying to themselves.
Starts at 20% then jumps to 45%.

Most pay the higher rate.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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I'm seriously about to just end this because you're pretending to not understand my words. I'll be as clear as possible here.

Income tax= 2.5%. It is a flat rate. The rich guy's income tax rate is 2.5%. The poor guy's rate is 2.5%. Same rate.

Who said crap to me about class warfare? You. You said I ignore the richest at the top and pretend they don't exist.
I didnt say crap about you ignoring the richest I said you ignored who paid the MOST..
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Corporations pay taxes, but the people that own them do not pay more than the 2.5% of their income.
YES THEY DO.. Its like talking to a child

http://www.taxrates.cc/html/saudi-arabia-tax-rates.html
Saudi Arabia
Corporate Tax Rate = 20%

Last I checked 20% is greater than 2.5%.. .

Saudi Arabia corporate income tax rate for 2009: 20%.

The tax rate of a resident capital company is 20% of its tax base, with the exception of tax rates for the gas and oil industries.

The income tax rates applicable to companies engaged in natural gas investment activities is 30%. (Such companies are subject to a higher tax rate from 30% to 85% based upon the cumulative rate of return.)

The income tax rate applicable to companies engaged in the production of oil and other hydrocarbons is 85%.

Last edited by CaseyB; 03-29-2013 at 04:56 PM..
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The current king didnt become king until 25 years AFTER the government bought out the oil companies.
Same family bro. In a monarchy, the power gets passed down between generations.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I didnt say crap about you ignoring the richest I said you ignored who paid the MOST..

YES THEY DO.. Its like talking to a child

Saudi Arabia Tax Rates
Saudi Arabia
Corporate Tax Rate = 20%

Last I checked 20% is greater than 2.5%.. Maybe you went to a special school..

Saudi Arabia corporate income tax rate for 2009: 20%.

The tax rate of a resident capital company is 20% of its tax base, with the exception of tax rates for the gas and oil industries.

The income tax rates applicable to companies engaged in natural gas investment activities is 30%. (Such companies are subject to a higher tax rate from 30% to 85% based upon the cumulative rate of return.)

The income tax rate applicable to companies engaged in the production of oil and other hydrocarbons is 85%.
Again, completely ignoring what I explicitly pointed out. The people who own the corporations don't pay the 20%. The corporation pays the 20%. Simple as that.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Monarchies aren't left wing.
It amazes me every time how people always try to associate negative things to the party they oppose, even when they must know they are wrong, like in this case. Monarchy and Socialism are not synonymous. There are many conservative aspects in SA, and some left wing aspects, but I would not call it either.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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Again, completely ignoring what I explicitly pointed out. The people who own the corporations don't pay the 20%. The corporation pays the 20%. Simple as that.
YOU ARRE FLAT OUT WRONG

Individuals carrying on a business or professional activity are taxed at the same rate (i.e. 20%) and under the same rules as corporate entities.

Saudi Arabia Tax Rates
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