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Old 04-01-2013, 06:49 AM
 
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What right does the homosexual have to force their sexual beliefs on the public with gay marriage? They are the ones pushing their agenda on the public with sex education as if homosexuality is normal. The gays are the ones forcing their ideas on the public.
Well, since the act of two homosexual individuals getting married in no way forces an agenda or a belief on you nor in any way affects your lifestyle (unless you consider forcing your religious beliefs onto others to be a lifestyle, regardless of the unconstitutionality of such behavior), I'd say that the answer to your question is that your question is a non-sequitur.

 
Old 04-01-2013, 06:54 AM
 
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The gays are not doing that. If they want to be gay that is their right. But they are forcing their gayness as being normal on the public..they are the activists.

If they want to do what they do in the privacy of their bedroom they have a choice.. but they are not willing to keep it there.. they want to redefine what marriage is..
And who are you to tell them they must profess their love for one another only in the privacy of their bedrooms? By what right to you believe you have to do this? The law defines what marriage is, not your religion.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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I know of no Christians that treat gays with disrespect.
The irony here is thick.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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It's sad that the right's last gasp rationale to oppose to gay marriage is a dictionary defense.
And they don't have that right either:

Black's Law Dictionary:

marriage, n. (Bc) 1. The legal union of a couple as spouses. - The essentials of a valid marriage are (1) parties legally capable of contracting to marry, (2) mutual consent or agreement, and (3) an actual contracting in the form prescribed by law. Marriage has important consequences in many areas of the law, such as torts, criminal law, evidence, debtor-creditor relations, property, and contracts.

-Black’s Law Dictionary Ninth Edition 2009 Pg 1059
 
Old 04-01-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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Then the gays should NOT FORCE THEIR AGENDA TO REDEFINE WHAT MARRIAGE IS.
The law, as decided by the will of the people, defines what marriage is. Not your religion or that of anyone else.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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who cares if you are on board? It's going to happen. This should be quite obvious by now. America is becoming a socially liberal society.

And by the way. This wouldn't be the first time we had to redefine marriage in this country. There was a time where inter-racial marriage was banned. What was the argument by the bigots back then? YOu guessed it...we shouldn't redefine the definition of marriage.
People who opposed interracial marriage also used the same lame 'arguments' like:

It's not God's will
It's a perversion
What next? People will marry their dogs!
 
Old 04-01-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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What right does the homosexual have to force their sexual beliefs on the public with gay marriage?
You are over-estimating a menace that does not exist.

What "sexual beliefs" can gay people - or anyone, for that matter - force upon someone else?
 
Old 04-01-2013, 07:02 AM
 
Location: (Orginally From Ann Arbor, MI) Now reside in Evans, Georgia
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPqN-F22WKA about sums it up for me.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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Normally I don't respond to posters who resort to personal attacks ... however, I fail to see how I'm an "uneducated bigot" just because I'm personally opposed to both gay & interracial marriage. If the truth were known, lots of people have hangups about both kinds of marriages. Truth is, I'm not a big fan of marriage in general. I believe that everybody should do what they will according to their own values & personal beliefs, and to hell with what the trend is.
So don't marry someone of a different race or someone of the same gender. Or don't get married at all.

Simple.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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That looks like a good link and I've been meaning to look for something like that, so thanks. I looked at it but will read the whole thing later.

Isn't there an argument to be made that the anti-"interracial marriage" laws were actually guilty of redefinition. Interracial marriage goes back several millenia. IIRC Abraham had a black wife.
Abraham's wife Sarah was his half-sister.
He also had sex with his wife's slavewoman Hagar.
He also had a number of concubines with whom he had children.

And Abraham was Yahweh's poster boy.
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