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Old 03-30-2013, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Whether he was or not, Did he have a weapon? That is what i want to know.
Martin didn't have a weapon, but it doesn't matter.. If he attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman had a fear for his life, he was justified in the shooting. That's what it comes down to.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:17 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Martin didn't have a weapon, but it doesn't matter.. If he attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman had a fear for his life, he was justified in the shooting. That's what it comes down to.
Do cops just shoot people because they are attacked?
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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At 5'11" and 158 pounds that would make young Mr. Martin a pretty fit young man.... At 5'7" and 200 lbs, that would make Zimmerman overweight considerably and hardly in any kind of shape.... Seems to me that would tend to go well for Zimmermans defense. Especially when you consider the amount of reach that Martin had over Zimmerman and the superiority of youth..
Well, one report listed Zimmerman at 5'8".....Seems to that it would be hard for a tall skinny guy to hold down a man weighing 200 lbs....all he'd have to do is roll over really hard. Why are the heavier football players considered more formidable?
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:20 PM
 
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Well, one report listed Zimmerman at 5'8".....Seems to that it would be hard for a tall skinny guy to hold down a man weighing 200 lbs....all he'd have to do is roll over really hard. Why are the heavier football players considered more formidable?
Football players are muscular... Zimmerman more resembles the Pillsbury dough boy... He is anything but.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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Do cops just shoot people because they are attacked?
Depending on the circumstances, yes. It doesn't matter.. Zimmerman is not a cop and does not have to react as one. He is a civilian and can protect himself with deadly force if attacked and be within the law in the state of florida and most states.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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Do cops just shoot people because they are attacked?
In THIS case, Martin would have had no reason to "fear" someone following him if that someone had clearly been law enforcement. He would have stopped and the cop could simply have asked him for ID and what he was doing there and settled Zimmerman's paranoia then and there. If there were any concerns about Martin's truthfulness, law enforcement easily could have verified his story. In fact, Martin was a guest at the complex and not someone there to "rob" the place as Zimmerman incorrectly suspected. It was Zimmerman's INCORRECT suspicion which caused this whole incident. If he had been a good neighborhood watch person, he would have simply called the police and waited for them to arrive. But he was not good at that job.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Depending on the circumstances, yes. It doesn't matter.. Zimmerman is not a cop and does not have to react as one. He is a civilian and can protect himself with deadly force if attacked and be within the law in the state of florida and most states.
Well, we will see if in the context of the totality of the circumstances a jury believes Zimmerman acted in self-defense or that he could have escaped without killing Martin. Zimmerman has told inconsistent stories about the attack and what happened during the fight.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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That is what I am saying he was not a cop why he harassing the dude. Why does a rental cop need a gun anyway? It is not because it was a bad neighborhood i live 2 miles from there it is a really nice no-crime gated neighborhood.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:30 PM
 
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Football players are muscular... Zimmerman more resembles the Pillsbury dough boy... He is anything but.
So his weight is of no advantage to him? What about sumo wrestlers.....certainly they use their weight as advantage?

But, yes, Zimmerman did look like a "dough boy".....and does again after this past year of being on bail. Of course he was a dough boy with a powerful gun. Just seems that something is wrong with the way Zimmerman handled the whole situation. It was like instigating a confrontation then killing the person when they got the best of you.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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In THIS case, Martin would have had no reason to "fear" someone following him if that someone had clearly been law enforcement. He would have stopped and the cop could simply have asked him for ID and what he was doing there and settled Zimmerman's paranoia then and there. If there were any concerns about Martin's truthfulness, law enforcement easily could have verified his story. In fact, Martin was a guest at the complex and not someone there to "rob" the place as Zimmerman incorrectly suspected. It was Zimmerman's INCORRECT suspicion which caused this whole incident. If he had been a good neighborhood watch person, he would have simply called the police and waited for them to arrive. But he was not good at that job.
Having INCORRECt suspicions is not a criminal act, nor is not following the suggestions of a police dispatcher. Due to break ins in the area, Zimmerman had reason for his suspicions. Did he act perfectly as a neighborhood watch person? Probably not. That isn't in question. What is in question is did he or did he not commit a crime.
That is why we have trials and a jury system. That is the purpose of the courts... He deserves to not be tried by public opinion but rather by evidence presented against him as well as on his behalf.
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