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Spending less and costing less are not the same thing.
I'll go ahead debunk your silly claim that health care is cheaper in other States......
Expenditure of selected health care functions by providers of health care, per inhabitant [hlth_sha1h]
Last update 25.10.11 Extracted on 06.01.13 Source of Data Eurostat UNIT Euro per inhabitant ICHA_HC Health care expenditure ICHA_HP All providers of health care
Romania.......310.39
South Korea....... 837.74
Slovakia....... 1,060.60
Denmark....... 4,643.97
Switzerland....... 5,215.64
Norway....... 5,343.49
Luxembourg....... 5,438.46 United States....... 5,684.68
UNIT Euro per inhabitant ICHA_HF General government
Romania....... 241.10
South Korea....... 473.18
Slovakia....... 690.87 United States....... 2,657.86
Switzerland .......3,114.60
Denmark .......3,775.17
Luxembourg .......4,105.86
Norway .......4,195.13
UNIT Euro per inhabitant ICHA_HF Private household out-of-pocket expenditure
Romania .......63.95
Slovakia .......268.80
South Korea .......271.69
Denmark....... 611.68
Luxembourg .......680.76 United States....... 697.13
Norway .......805.54
Switzerland....... 1,590.18
No, I didn’t stutter…..those are out-of-pocket expenses.
I see some don't even bother to read links that are offered as rebuttals but simply continue to parrot the inaccurate stuff.
The power's that be are only YOUR DOCTOR! No other entity has any say in your treatment timeline or otherwise.
If the procedure is accepted as a valid treatment instead of "peach pit" medicine then you are covered.
If the treatment required is of an immediate nature and the availability of it is at issue, then our Provincial coverage will pay the full shot to have that treatment performed OUT OF COUNTRY!
These statistics are good, but it can't be concluded from them that private health care is necessary for quality health care. For example, in addition to surpassing the United States in breast cancer survival rates, Cuba also ranks higher than the U.S. in colorectal cancer survival rates for both men and women. France ranks higher than the U.S. in colorectal survival rates for women, and Canada has survival rates almost identical to the United States in breast and colorectal cancer. In each of these countries, the government takes on a greater share of health care coverage than does the United States. U.S. Health Care Vs. The OECD - Forbes.com
These statistics are good, but it can't be concluded from them that private health care is necessary for quality health care. For example, in addition to surpassing the United States in breast cancer survival rates, Cuba also ranks higher than the U.S. in colorectal cancer survival rates for both men and women. France ranks higher than the U.S. in colorectal survival rates for women, and Canada has survival rates almost identical to the United States in breast and colorectal cancer. In each of these countries, the government takes on a greater share of health care coverage than does the United States. U.S. Health Care Vs. The OECD - Forbes.com
Aren't most countries relying on American cancer drugs?
Free healthcare, that's ridiculous. How on earth are we supposed to police the world if we're spending tax dollars on providing basic healthcare to our own people; furthermore, Who's going to make any money off of that?
You should know that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. Plus, you ignore the fact that 45,000 Americans die each year due to lack of insurance. More people die in this country due to lack of insurance than due to kidney disease. http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/hea...-US-adults.pdf
Not only do you resort to anecdotal evidence, but you make the same mistake as a prior poster. Simply using waiting times as a metric of quality HC is absurd. While Americans may wait less for a variety of health services compared to their Northern counterparts, they still lag behind other countries in waiting times.
Again, people like to cherrypick data and simply use Canada.
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Spending less and costing less are not the same thing.
I'll go ahead debunk your silly claim that health care is cheaper in other States......
Your own data does not support your claim. Expenditure of selected health care functions by providers of health care, per inhabitant. Eurostat - Data Explorer
Guess which country leads the world on spending per inhabitant? It is the US.
The data is in. The US spends an overwhelming amount on certain health care services than other countries. Overwhelmingly more. The International Federation of Health Plans, (iFHP) a network of leading health insurance CEO's from over 25 countries, has released the 2012 Comparative Price Report. This is the fourth annual survey of prices of the cost of specific medical and products and services, compiled from data collected by iFHP member plans. The study aims to help plans better understand why health care costs are so much higher in some countries than others. The survey data showed that average US prices were once again the highest of those in the countries surveyed for nearly all of the common services and procedures reviewed. http://www.ifhp.com/documents/2012iF...NALMarch25.pdf
It's not free, its paid through taxes, but the upside is that you don't have to worry about access to healthcare, being out of network, co-pays, deductibles, reaching $ limits, or worry about not having the money to pay for expensive treatments.
yeah right, now I have to pay for someone elses health care even though it is not my responsibility. wish you liberals were so correct about other peoples civil liberties the same way you are about stealing someone elses money for your pet projects.
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I just posted numerous articles from Canadian sources regarding the issue with waiting times in Canada. I'm sorry if that's not the "reality" you were looking for because it doesn't support the point you're trying to make. It is nonetheless, reality. I suggest you read the articles. Maybe then we can have an objective discussion.
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