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Old 04-02-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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Once again High skilled American workers get pushed aside.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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The supply should be 0. We don't need to overhaul the system; we have enough highly-skilled Americans out of work to do these jobs. We don't need more Indians/Chinese.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Depends on the need. There are not enough certified PMP Program Managers in certain sectors of the work force. My girlfriend is German and companies fall all over themselves to pay for her visa just to work in this country. It's either that or they fall all over themselves because she is really good looking . . . hmmmmm.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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There are enough qualified Americans here.

Any American should have 1st choice on any job.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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There are enough qualified Americans here.

Any American should have 1st choice on any job.
There aren't in the Airline industry for International flight planning/fuel control systems. Her job requires her to know/speak Spanish & English (she is German, so she speaks that fluently), to know her job, and to be a Certified PMP with a Master's degree. Her combination of these 3 things put her in a very highly sought after group that DO include Americans, there just isn't enough Americans to fill all the positions. There aren't a ton of these kinds of jobs out there, but they do exist and there just aren't enough of us pursuing that line of work and willing to get the education and certifications required.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There aren't in the Airline industry for International flight planning/fuel control systems. Her job requires her to know/speak Spanish & English (she is German, so she speaks that fluently), to know her job, and to be a Certified PMP with a Master's degree. Her combination of these 3 things put her in a very highly sought after group that DO include Americans, there just isn't enough Americans to fill all the positions. There aren't a ton of these kinds of jobs out there, but they do exist and there just aren't enough of us pursuing that line of work and willing to get the education and certifications required.
Good for her that she got that job.

PMP's are starting to become commonplace though. That started about 5-6 years ago with a mad rush to get that "industry required" cert. When everyone has a cert, that cert means less and less.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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Good for her that she got that job.

PMP's are starting to become commonplace though. That started about 5-6 years ago with a mad rush to get that "industry required" cert. When everyone has a cert, that cert means less and less.
Yep. I have the Microsoft Security + (amongst a few others) and now everyone has that and it really doesn't mean much anymore. It serves (now) as a minimal requirement. My other certs are on the newer side of things and this allows me to get into a highly sought after area (Information Security), but once that becomes saturated, then our positions will be going to the lowest bidder. Such is the way nowadays.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yep. I have the Microsoft Security + (amongst a few others) and now everyone has that and it really doesn't mean much anymore. It serves (now) as a minimal requirement. My other certs are on the newer side of things and this allows me to get into a highly sought after area (Information Security), but once that becomes saturated, then our positions will be going to the lowest bidder. Such is the way nowadays.
My brother has to jump through those hoops as well since he' on the customer information side of software.
He just got something having to do with ISO 9000 certification process which puts him in a good position.

Thankfully I never had to really jump through those hoops. I was a systems programmer and rarely did customer work or application work.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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My brother has to jump through those hoops as well since he' on the customer information side of software.
He just got something having to do with ISO 9000 certification process which puts him in a good position.

Thankfully I never had to really jump through those hoops. I was a systems programmer and rarely did customer work or application work.
A systems programmer? That's cool. I'm thinking about going into network security.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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A systems programmer? That's cool. I'm thinking about going into network security.
That's a good area to go into these days. The more nuts and bolts you know about it the more valuable you become to a company. IMHO that's one area where demand won't soften and would be hard pressed to get off shored.
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