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You get hung up on the small numbers. In comparison to all gun owners, most do lock up and secure guns.
Its a small problem, often, just a tragic accident. People do make mistakes.
Id have more respect for the anti-gun folks if they actually got the facts straight. You like to scare people my posting the few bad things about them. You like to exploit the victims such as women and children for your cause. Why dont you look at the whole picture and see that more good does come from them then bad?
I never ran across a gun ---ever, in my whole life, as a child or adult. Responsible people don't just leave guns laying around where kids or adults can get their hands on them.
Hmmm.... I grew up with guns in my house. My step dad had a shotgun behind their bedroom door, a 22 rifle in the other corner of the room, and a pistol in their dresser. My step brother had a shot gun, a 30-30, in either corner of his room. He also had a bow and arrow, and 2 cross bows. Not to mention 2 pistols, a 9mm and a 44 mag. Both were hunters. At any rate, I knew early on the difference between a toy, and a real gun. I also learned early on to keep my hands off of stuff that didn't belong to me, and if friends were over it was when my parents were home. Yeah, as a teen, I disobeyed that rule a bit, but nevertheless none of them went in other rooms of the house, messed with those guns, or were accidently shot! In fact those friends also were taught common sense, and they had parents who owned guns.
You get hung up on the small numbers. In comparison to all gun owners, most do lock up and secure guns.
Its a small problem, often, just a tragic accident. People do make mistakes.
Id have more respect for the anti-gun folks if they actually got the facts straight. You like to scare people my posting the few bad things about them. You like to exploit the victims such as women and children for your cause. Why dont you look at the whole picture and see that more good does come from them then bad?
Because I absolutely do not share that opinion. I think America's gun-happy culture is one of its biggest weaknesses. Thirty thousand people every year. And yes more than half are suicides but that doesn't mean they aren't still a tragedy. You can discount them; I do not.
There have been 3,932 gun deaths since Newtown. That's an entire small town of people.
If you go to this graphic, and click on some of the "bodies" signifying gun deaths, you can click on "source" and read each one's story. The small bodies indicate children who were killed. Two-year-olds shot by their fathers. Women ambushed in parking lots and cold-bloodedly slaughtered by their husbands. So many women and children killed in murder/suicides by the people they trust the most. They are the saddest stories in the world. And there will be more today, and tomorrow, and the day after that.....
Because I absolutely do not share that opinion. I think America's gun-happy culture is one of its biggest weaknesses. Thirty thousand people every year. And yes more than half are suicides but that doesn't mean they aren't still a tragedy. You can discount them; I do not.
There have been 3,932 gun deaths since Newtown. That's an entire small town of people.
If you go to this graphic, and click on some of the "bodies" signifying gun deaths, you can click on "source" and read each one's story. The small bodies indicate children who were killed. Two-year-olds shot by their fathers. Women ambushed in parking lots and cold-bloodedly slaughtered by their husbands. So many women and children killed in murder/suicides by the people they trust the most. They are the saddest stories in the world. And there will be more today, and tomorrow, and the day after that.....
OK, so knowing this, and knowing that human nature does indeed have a dark side, wouldn't it make more sense for that woman to be able to have the knowledge to defend herself? Sorry, but I value my life, as well as that of my family and others, so you needn't worry about someone like me. But I'll be damned if I'm going to allow myself or my family to be vulnerable to the jacka**es of the world who don't give a crap about the lives of others, or their own! Because if they did care, they wouldn't be partaking in risky behavior that may get themselves killed!
OK, so knowing this, and knowing that human nature does indeed have a dark side, wouldn't it make more sense for that woman to be able to have the knowledge to defend herself? Sorry, but I value my life, as well as that of my family and others, so you needn't worry about someone like me. But I'll be damned if I'm going to allow myself or my family to be vulnerable to the jacka**es of the world who don't give a crap about the lives of others, or their own! Because if they did care, they wouldn't be partaking in risky behavior that may get themselves killed!
The point of this thread is gun safety in the home. Yes, I understand that people want to defend their homes from outside intruders, but in reality you are more likely to be shot by an acquaintance or family member than you are a total stranger. One of the most dangerous things a woman in a domestic violence situation can do is let a gun remain the home, because it is far more likely to be used to threaten, assault, or kill her than it is to be used by her for self-defense. (but that's another thread.)
Because I absolutely do not share that opinion. I think America's gun-happy culture is one of its biggest weaknesses. Thirty thousand people every year. And yes more than half are suicides but that doesn't mean they aren't still a tragedy. You can discount them; I do not.
There have been 3,932 gun deaths since Newtown. That's an entire small town of people.
If you go to this graphic, and click on some of the "bodies" signifying gun deaths, you can click on "source" and read each one's story. The small bodies indicate children who were killed. Two-year-olds shot by their fathers. Women ambushed in parking lots and cold-bloodedly slaughtered by their husbands. So many women and children killed in murder/suicides by the people they trust the most. They are the saddest stories in the world. And there will be more today, and tomorrow, and the day after that.....
There has been an estimated 300,000 deaths due to obesity. That darn Big Mac seems to be more of a weakness.
Suicide is a death. Advocate for suicide prevention instead of gun prevention. If one wants to die, they will do it. A gun is just one tool of many they can use.
Violent crimes and deaths. Still, same thing. Lets solve that problem. A gun is just a tool of many tools used.
From most of your posts, you dont like guns and you dont like men. Its always the women and children. Women kill too. Some with guns, some without.
That is absolutely not true. Here's a good example. For decades, family practitioners have been forbidden to ask patients about guns in their homes or how they are stored. If that restriction was dropped, and pediatricians could ask parents about guns in the home, many of these incidents could have been prevented. Are you trying to tell me that these parents were unable to safely secure these guns away from their children? That they didn't know better? No, it's just a too casual attitude towards guns, thinking they are just toys, and being too lazy to store them properly away from children.
Or the NRA. They'll lobby about every stupid, outrageous unfeasible plan in the world, but why don't they direct their massive resources to publicizing gun safety at home, since each year more children are killed by guns at home than are ever killed in mass shootings.
Gun lovers love to accept all these needless deaths, when so much could be done. They are like helpless little ninnies flapping their arms about going "we can't do anything to improve gun safety...it would be too hard...it wouldn't work!...I might have to make an effort...it might be an inconvenience !!...waaahhh
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You can go right ahead (and hijack the thread). The point of the thread if you hadn't noticed was about the tragic death of a child from an accidental gun shooting, and safety measures that gun-owners should adopt to prevent such tragedies. To which I would add that guns in the home are also used to kill children outright, i.e. homicide.
The fact that guns are used in self-defense in no way changes the fact that every few days some child dies a violent death from guns in the home.
YOU didn't START this thread so try to tell me what I can and cannot post.
You talk about hijacking a thread how, about your statement, "And you wonder why I think gun owners are idiots"?
In a ADULT discussion both side give their opinions. YOU claim that gun owners are idiots (is that highjacking the thread?) and I post where guns have been used many, many time MORE for good then and you can't take it so you "accuse me of highjacling the thread that you didn't even start.
Grow up. If you cant' stand people voicing their opinion when it is counter to yours, then you don't belong on a public adult forum.
I am still waiting for your apology to ALL gun owners.
Ellen makes some very good points and gets up set at the deflections.
ELLEN PLEASE QUIT CALLING THEM idiots IT IS JUST SCREWING UP THIS THREAD.
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