Fast food workers strike, demand $15 an hour LOL (interview, Army, percent)

[california-jewel]

Originally Posted by Ceece

I agree with this.

Unskilled labor is often hard, physical work and we all rely on OTHER PEOPLE to do that for us, as much as we can.

What a very true statement that is. And think we each are guilty of relying on other people to do the unskilled labor.

And yes it is hard physical work. About Unskilled workers, people say to me, well someone has to do it right?

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Nomander

Yep, but they will counter with the "idealist" belief that people will still aspire for more complex jobs and focuses in order to fulfill themselves.

My response is to that is... "I would rather do a mindless job of no effort, get paid, then on my personal time do all the fulfillment seeking I like" My work I could do without thinking, heck... some jobs are basically sitting doing nothing, I could read, study, etc... all the things I wanted and get paid the good money for it!

Problem is, all of the things we have (technology, entertainment, etc...) today would not exist in their "utopian" society. Heck, it is like these kids can't be bothered to open up a book and see how societies exactly like they want turned out.

Idiocracy, that is what we have become.

BS..in the end it's about the money to keep a roof over your head.
The idealists find out mighty quick that "fulfilling yourself" doesn't pay the rent and they embrace capitalism.

[Nomander]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

Shows you how times change.

I started working as a teen in the 70's.

Let me ask you..were there other adults working alongside you or were they all teens with only the manager being the adult ?

I started working when I was 10 for a paper route. Then, while doing that, I also worked for my mothers work on the weekends doing prep tasks (college food service).

I never thought I would turn into my parents/grandparents with the old saying of "In my day", but seriously, these kids are worthless these days. We can't go much further or they will be claiming they should be getting paid to get out of bed.

[Dumbdowndemocrats]

Originally Posted by s1alker

The minimal wage would be around $15 if it kept up with inflation. $7 bucks an hour would of been 1990s wage.

Then my craft on the railroad would be making $50 an hour and inflation would then hyper inflat thus making a combo selection into a financial decision...StarBucks is an appropriate name because one day prices will go to the moon Alice...maybe they could open a PayDay loan at MickyD 's ...can I super size that for ya ?

[shiftymh]

Originally Posted by MTAtech

Doubling McDonald's Salaries Would Cause Your Big Mac To Cost Just 68¢ More: Study [UPDATE]
I would gladly pay 68 cents more so people get a better salary and don't need SNAP to live.

A 17% increase is nothing to sneeze at.

You'd be glad to pay 17% extra for fast food? Good for you, but it only works if all of their current customers are and in my 39 years on this planet I have yet to hear anybody utter the phrase "Let's eat here and pay more because they pay their employees a living wage."

[rbohm]

Originally Posted by Gtownoe

Some of you have no clue of what today's Economy is like.




For clarification, the discussion is McDonalds. Not the minimum wage. What's being shown is that there's money in the margins to greatly increase the pay of the average McDonalds worker.

you are one of those that have no clue it seems. while the study is just on mcdonalds, it fails to take into account a lot of things that will happen due to the snowball effect. it also doesnt take into account the fact that most mcdonalds restaurants are franchises not corporate owned. but some of the things it doesnt take into account;

1: lets say we force mcdonalds and its franchisees to pay higher wages, this then spills over to the rest of the fast food restaurants, and then to other industries. soon everyone is making a lot more money, but then EVERYTHING costs a lot more to buy. that 68 cents more for a big mac means that the cars you buy, the electronics you buy, in fact everything you buy goes up by the same percentage increase

2: you know the government will get involved in this, and try to pass laws forcing higher wages, and that means if they pass that union wages go up as union contracts are tied to the minimum wage. if the minimum wage goes up 20% so do union wages.

and those are just a sample of what happens in the economy. that snowball will get larger and larger.

[Gtownoe]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

The study is flawed. It did not cover anything but doubling the starting salary.

I read a report today that was signed by 100+ Economist. It covered the same topic.

[legalsea]

Originally Posted by Mac_Muz

I worked for the minimum at age 14 when the rate was 64 cents per hour.

I did roofing on real 40 foot wooden ladders too at 16 for about 5 bucks an hour which beat the hell out of the minimum. Hated those ladders for the bounce in the middle when you carried a whole bundle of shingles up.

I think it's a riot these kids thing flipping burgers is work...

Back in my day if a kid got a car it was a 200 dollar car and that kid needed to spend time getting dirty and spend money for just parts.

Kids these days don't need a car and beside their driving sucks. They can just barely manage automatic shift

I just have to ask: when did you work for 64 cents an hour?

In 1970, I earned $1.60 per hour, the then-minimum wage.

Here is a chart from the US Labor Department showing minimum wages since 1938:

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

[Nomander]

Originally Posted by NatAnc

I don't want communism and I don't want everyone making the same thing. I want EVERYONE to have at least a livable wage. 15$ is that. Now if you can make more go for it. But it should be a starting wage of 15$ an hour. I am anti communist and anti capitalist.

Then you don't understand what it is then. You want everyone to be "equal". You think everyone should all "equally" have a given minimum. That regardless of their effort, their task, their contribution, etc... they should get that.

You espouse communist ideals. It isn't complete in its entire demand, but you argue its basis for that given focus.

You argue anti-freedom. You are against individual liberty. It would be one thing if you admitted that you are carrying the torch for communism, but what is sad is you don't even realize that you are. You have been educated in such a damaging manner that you are confused to what you think you know and believe. You just "want" and that is the problem with your generation. You have a want in one hand, and crap in the other and no sense to figure out they are both the same.

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

There's a flaw in this student's proposal.

He claims expenses would stay the same.

If you double the salary you have to double the employer tax liability as well.
Employers pay a percentage to the government, not a fixed dollar amount.

I enjoy a #1 Big Mac Meal from time to time and note the prices whenever/wherever I buy.
The price was in the $5.50 +/- range in my neck of the woods just a few years ago. It now, with tax, is closing in on $8.00, about a 40% increase.

Is it a coincidence that the increase seems to have coincided with the increase to Illinois minimum wage to $8.25 in 2011? . The overall cost of living sure has not increased by 40%.

On the other hand....the cost of a Big Mac Meal in Sydney, Au., expressed in USD is about $8, and the Adult Minimum Wage is Au is $14.37, again, expressed in USD. Both the effective corporate tax and employer tax rates are higher in Au. than in the U.S.

Everything, everywhere, sells for what the market will bear and the highest price possible at the point of sale.