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Old 04-05-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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Why don't they just lower taxes on capital and labor?
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Most of our debt is held by our people too[/b].
Many seem to forget this.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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Many seem to forget this.
I just love the Fed stimulus too. The pension funds depended on government bond yields which have tanked due to the stimulus and then Illinois raised taxes to cover it. Stimulus?

The national debt is the main source of all liquidity. What is even more of a joke is the the Fed is now rebating all the securities it has purchased back to the Treasury, actually making it worse, not better.

We still have a private debt and foreign debt problem, and we still don't have a national debt problem. The national debt is what creates all our liquidity.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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Most of out debt is held by our people too.
But clearly not by the same people who need stimulation, thereby increasing the wealth gap that you so oppose.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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But clearly not by the same people who need stimulation
Pretty much everyone owns a piece of it

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thereby increasing the wealth gap that you so oppose
Can you help me find the post of mine you are referring to where I said I oppose what you say I oppose. Thanks
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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Pretty much everyone owns a piece of it
But not everyone receives profit from it, do they?
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Can you help me find the post of mine you are referring to where I said I oppose what you say I oppose. Thanks
You sure do spend a lot of time worrying about tax cuts on the wealthy, what else could one summarize from your resistance to allow people to keep their own money?
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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Ummmmmmm........................... they did that in the early '90s and it failed then. The US had a failed "stimulus" since then.

Now why in the world do they think that it will work now?
Because these fools never see other peoples money they don't want to spend. Or in our case money they never plan on paying back they don't want to spend. 20T in debt who cares is the battle cry. No wonder people in this country aren't responsible about money. Their own government sets a pathetic example.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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But not everyone receives profit from it, do they?
I didn't say anything about "profit", but whoever retires and receives SS payments, is being paid back some of the money the government owes them

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You sure do spend a lot of time worrying about tax cuts on the wealthy, what else could one summarize from your resistance to allow people to keep their own money?
Show the posts so I we can examime my words. As of right now, I have no clue what you are referring to.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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I didn't say anything about "profit", but whoever retires and receives SS payments, and being paid back some of the monney the government owns them

Show the posts so I we can examime my words. As of right now, I have no clue what you are saying.
Social Security debt isnt counted as federal debt, try again.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Social Security debt isnt counted as federal debt, try again.
Yes, it is a part of the national debt.

So, did you find those quotes to back up your claims?

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