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Old 04-09-2013, 08:46 PM
 
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As a guy, I really don't think this is a serious question. A lot of guys who post stuff like this aren't truly interested in men getting a fair shake where they aren't (and yes, there are plenty of instances of this.) What I suspect they're interested in is enjoying the privileged status of being male, and prefer to demonize anybody (feminists) who point this out.
Privileged status? Boy...got anything else to offer other than 40 year old feminist propaganda?

 
Old 04-09-2013, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I want equality in the workplace, I also want equality when it comes to the value put on a person's life, men are seen as disposable. What's more important, the value of a person's life or the value of a person's paycheck?
Ah, an unfounded persecution complex.
Rather like the majority christians claiming persecution.

No one is saying any of this garbage you're posting; if someone believes it, they might want to seek out help.
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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That isn't fair as it only effects men. If a man has to sign such an agreement, women should as well to get an abortion. Both of those ideas are foolish.
How will it only effect men? The man gets to choose before the act if he will be responsible if pregnancy occurs, and the woman will know that if she chooses to keep any pregnancy she is on her own. Until a man can carry a fetus, he has no say in abortion unless the woman wants to ask his opinion.

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Alimony needs to go away. Both sexes are capable of working.
Some women, and men, lose years of career building time to stay home with children. My mom never worked, she was a stay at home wife. If my parents got divorced she would have no skills, or years of working her way up the ladder like my dad did. He worked, she did just about everything else.


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I have tried. But feminist, male and female, deny this is an issue. They buy into the medical myths.
Bbbbbbut the evil feminists.



I couldn't find any other sources, or any actual stats.
I do know that they don't only look at the crime, but prior criminal history. There are no two cases where ALL factors are exactly the same.
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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My parents were immigrants who arrived in Canada in 1950. My father worked hard but did not really make a lot of money. My mother on the other hand was an enterprising sort. She started her own business. The business grew and within a few years she was generating 10 times the money my father was making. He was proud of her and there was no resentment. My mother had nothing against men but was a feminist - the old school kind. You can not keep a good man down as they say - nor can you keep a good woman down. There were no blockages to my mothers career. She just went ahead and did things with confidence and tons of bravado.
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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The point I am making is - if a woman is strong and smart there are no limits. Modern feminists want things they do not deserve or willing to work for. Feminism today is just a form of awkward socialism. If you truly want to achieve things in life- your sex is of little consequence.
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Ah, an unfounded persecution complex.
Rather like the majority christians claiming persecution.

No one is saying any of this garbage you're posting; if someone believes it, they might want to seek out help.
Unfounded persecution complex? You mean like the myth of male privilege? The myth of rape culture? How about the myth of only men turning women into objects by complimenting their looks? Why is big beautiful if your a woman, but not if you're a man?
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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No it has not. Men have no say when it comes to the womans body. I am not denying this. Men should not have to be forced to have a child the don't want. A common argument is that most women get abortions for financial reasons, how is it justifiable for a woman to do this, but not for a man to do it? Since the man can't control the woman's decision, and shouldn't even try to IMO, its a woman's body, it's her choice. Its a mans life, he should also have a choice.
If a man is hell-bent on not providing for a child, he should wrap it up or get snipped. Or keep his pants on.
If a woman gets pregnant, she decides, because the onus of childrearing will be on her. You want the guy to be able to just waltz away. Too bad, so sad. It's not going to happen.
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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If a man is hell-bent on not providing for a child, he should wrap it up or get snipped. Or keep his pants on.
If a woman gets pregnant, she decides, because the onus of childrearing will be on her. You want the guy to be able to just waltz away. Too bad, so sad. It's not going to happen.
I could make the same argument, if a woman doesn't want a kid she should take a pill, wrap it up, or get snipped. Your flawed logic isn't a valid argument.

And I the onus on supporting said child is put on the man, if the woman has the child, the ,an should be ale to decide to support that child or not.
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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If a man is hell-bent on not providing for a child, he should wrap it up or get snipped. Or keep his pants on.
If a woman gets pregnant, she decides, because the onus of childrearing will be on her. You want the guy to be able to just waltz away. Too bad, so sad. It's not going to happen.
It takes two to tango and frankly, the woman has all the power in regards to the child.
The man has nothing but the responsibility.
 
Old 04-09-2013, 09:48 PM
 
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I don't feel my status as a man has deprived me of any rights. It's good to be a man.
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