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Old 05-05-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I also do not really have a problem with gun owners being made to have a million dollar umbrella insurance policy to have guns.
I agree! We should also have the same requirement of people that want to express themselves, using any form of communication. We have to ensure that if someone uses their words to cause harm to someone (libel/slander), that they are able to handle the financial responsibilities related to their actions.

Same with religion. If someone wants to practice a religion that has been tied to recent acts of violence, they should be required to provide evidence that they're insured for that.
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I'd like to know where all these anti-gun control cops are. All the ones I know (dozens if not 100's) are very pro-gun control (up to and including civilian confiscation) including all the ones I hunt with.
Well it's police one news of course, the author Doug Wyllie isn't even a police officer, that's not a requirement to take a suvey but how did all the major outlets miss "the most comphrensive survey ever".

Would love to hear the details of how the survey was completed for 15,000 police officers, most police officers I met are pro-gun control.
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I was wondering the same thing myself..if the respondants were from a cherry picked group or what..I honestly have never ran across a gun control freak officer and I worked in three different states as a LEO and worked around a very diverse group..for dem and repub controlled Sheriff's depts.

See one of my several previous responses. As others have surmised, it's likely location specific. I, too, found it hard to believe when I first encountered it but it is what it is.
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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See one of my several previous responses. As others have surmised, it's likely location specific. I, too, found it hard to believe when I first encountered it but it is what it is.
The survey was put online at policeone.com. ANYONE can go to policeone. However, you could not respond to the survey and you cannot post on policeone, unless you are vetted and certified law enforcement officer. The survey was given to the officers who are on policeone and you took the survey (yes, I participated). The results are what they are.

Whether you like it or not, the rank and file police officers, all across this country, ARE NOT for gun banning. They believe in reasonable gun control and enforcing the laws already existing. However, they are not for banning guns. I know its hard for you to believe, however the facts are just that; the facts.

No one was cherry picked. You could participate or not. It was your choice.
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It's not hard for me to believe at all. I was just sharing that almost all the officers I know here, where I am, many of whom I've hunted with, are uniformly in favor of additional gun control laws.
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Old 05-05-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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it is what it is.
I'm not convinced of that.
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:13 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I'm not convinced of that.
Fine.

I'll go out on a limb and guess that if you polled big city officers the majority, likely a hefty one, would be in favor of more gun control. Rural officers, especially in states like PA or the Mid West/Mountain West probably not.

I've only stated what I've experienced here, in a state that is the 5th or 6th most dangerous in the US, the majority of which comes from just two jurisdictions. Those are the cops I'm referencing, along with a fair number where I live in one of the rural Counties.
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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It's not hard for me to believe at all. I was just sharing that almost all the officers I know here, where I am, many of whom I've hunted with, are uniformly in favor of additional gun control laws.
Increased gun control laws and gun banning are two totally different things.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Your attempt to be cute fails.

The anti gunners CONSTANTLY bring out Mayors and Police Chiefs, the vast majority of mayors are dems AND APPOINT the Police Chiefs. If the Chiefs don't go along with the mayor's agenda they get fired, so THEIR "opinions" have NO validity.

So ow we have a pll of the "cop on the street' and you want to make fun of their opinions. How sad.

Most people with common sense give MORE credence to a "cop on the street" then political hacks.

I will listen to Officer Phil rather then Chief Hack any day.
Excuse me?

I asked an honest question.

I will await Officer Phil's answer rather than your ignorant and presumptive rant, thank you very much.

Sheesh.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I think you mis read, "Bottom Line Conclusions. Quite clearly, the majority of officers polled oppose the theories brought forth by gun-control advocates who claim that proposed restrictions on weapon capabilities and production would reduce crime.

The average "cop on the street" is NOT anti-gun.
What amazed me is that Officer Phil appears to be not only a cop who supports concealed carry, but that he is a cop in the San Francisco Bay area - a liberal area whose residents generally support gun control.

Most cops in southern California are against concealed carry - thus I may have a built in bias based on the hostile atrtitudes that I see among cops around me every day concerning the issue.

I think that you and I are on the same page.

Maybe Officer Phil is different.
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