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Old 04-10-2013, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Originally Posted by derosterreich View Post
Bestiality is the same thing, so is Man-Boy. They are alternate sexual relationships to the norm.

Marriage is a M/W, it has religious affiliation and should remain aligned with it.

The easiest solution is to stop giving tax incentives to married people. Single people are persecuted to the same level as gays by the IRS which is wrong and immoral.

Make marriage a function the church, and if gays haven't realized you are only trying to get 'married' to stick in in the eye of the church/Christians who hold it dear.

You can still adopt, make a will, make contracts, co-sign on mortgages, sodomize each other and be as gay as you want without breaking any laws.

Gay Marriage is an oxymoron and is just meant to dismantle the few lasting religious impressions on society.

Bestials, polygamists, asexuals, singles, heteros, homos, trannies, etc should all be equally brutalized by the IRS and government as the next human being. The arbitrary fervor over gay marriage is as stupid and illogical as one can expect in 2013.

you forget though.. religion doesn't dictate public policy ...
if you're religious and it offends u.... build a bridge and get over it.. not everyone is christian or religious.. you don't get to impose your dear feelings on everyone else... regardless... we all have dear feelings..some of which contradict yours... so it's a matter of equal treatment under the law.. religion means nothing...

 
Old 04-11-2013, 07:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
So why are the elderly allowed to marry? They can't reproduce.
Why can infertile people get married, they can't reproduce.
Lies, elderly have reproduced. and so have people with vacectamies, tubal ligation, and nearly every form of birth control ever developed. The possibility of reproduction exists with hetero's, it does not with homo's.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...sVISfoT3vdGROQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...6ZP0nrnY8ltUyw
 
Old 04-11-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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Default No, thank you very much

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Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post
Lies, elderly have reproduced. and so have people with vacectamies, tubal ligation, and nearly every form of birth control ever developed. The possibility of reproduction exists with hetero's, it does not with homo's.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...sVISfoT3vdGROQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...6ZP0nrnY8ltUyw
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I think you would get the same response frm 99.9% of the elderly. I am 64, been married since 1974, and haven't been pregnant since 1984. I must be very, very LUCKY since my bc didn't fail, my husband's vasectomy didn't fail, and certainly MENOPAUSE didn't fail.

I really doubt straight couples marrying in their 50s+ WANT to be making babies. Totally ABSURD. Procreation ISN'T and SHOULDN'T be the criteria for marriage. That is INSULTING and just religious BS.

BTW, that "miracle baby" will be an orphan before he or she reaches double digits in age. Ever think that is natures/god's reason for menopause?????

Last edited by Jo48; 04-11-2013 at 07:47 AM..
 
Old 04-11-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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No and I used to be 100% against homosexual marriage but have changed my mind..you won't see me out there protesting to change the laws but in my own personal opinion the government either needs to let everyone marry or get the hell out of marriage altogether.Oh and to me marriage is not a religious ceremony but a binding of 2 or more people together.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Put it this way. If I were a family law judge and a couple came into my court who had children and were in the process of having a divorce...I would threaten both parties with jail if they did not start doing their duty. If you bring kids into the world- You finish your job as a team...I would not tolerate someone saying...."I am mentally abused and need room to grow" or "I have fallen out of love with her or him" -- nope...I would put my foot down and say - put in the 18 years and raise those kids...You personal issues are secondary...Divorce is to easy.....as for adulterous spouses....I would find out who the interloper was - who seduced the spouse of another man or woman and I would give THAT person 90 days in jail for damaging someone else's family.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post
Lies, elderly have reproduced. and so have people with vacectamies, tubal ligation, and nearly every form of birth control ever developed. The possibility of reproduction exists with hetero's, it does not with homo's.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...sVISfoT3vdGROQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...6ZP0nrnY8ltUyw
Your first post was about a couple that used invetro fertilization.
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The babies’ father, who will be sharing in the sleepless nights, is 77 years old retired farmer Charan Singh Panwar, who sold off his buffalo, and burned through his life savings just to pay for the invitro fertilization treatments that got enabled his wife to become pregnant.
Which a homosexual has access to as well.

The second link was about getting pregnant on birth control. From "mom answers".
 
Old 04-11-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Put it this way. If I were a family law judge and a couple came into my court who had children and were in the process of having a divorce...I would threaten both parties with jail if they did not start doing their duty. If you bring kids into the world- You finish your job as a team...I would not tolerate someone saying...."I am mentally abused and need room to grow" or "I have fallen out of love with her or him" -- nope...I would put my foot down and say - put in the 18 years and raise those kids...You personal issues are secondary...Divorce is to easy.....as for adulterous spouses....I would find out who the interloper was - who seduced the spouse of another man or woman and I would give THAT person 90 days in jail for damaging someone else's family.
As a judge you don't get to make up your own laws. The judge has to follow the laws of the state.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach View Post
Put it this way. If I were a family law judge and a couple came into my court who had children and were in the process of having a divorce...I would threaten both parties with jail if they did not start doing their duty. If you bring kids into the world- You finish your job as a team...I would not tolerate someone saying...."I am mentally abused and need room to grow" or "I have fallen out of love with her or him" -- nope...I would put my foot down and say - put in the 18 years and raise those kids...You personal issues are secondary...Divorce is to easy.....as for adulterous spouses....I would find out who the interloper was - who seduced the spouse of another man or woman and I would give THAT person 90 days in jail for damaging someone else's family.
So, quick question for you. My mother and father divorced when I was a few months old. My Mom left him because he beat my 4 year old sister with a belt repeatedly and held a knife to my Mom when she was 9 months pregnant with me.
If your court of "family" law would you have forced them to stay together?
As an update, when I looked up my Dad a few years ago (never had the "pleasure" of meeting him) I found his obituary. I also found several instances of him going to prison for violence including, but not limited to, children. So, would I have been better off if my Mom & Daddy had been forced to stay together?
 
Old 04-11-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
So why are the elderly allowed to marry? They can't reproduce.
Why can infertile people get married, they can't reproduce.
Joining property for the benefit of no progeny is a waste of a contract under the common law.
Of course, if they're seeking benefits under socialism - - - that's different.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
If someone made a law saying that the definition of "apple" is now changed so that it includes rocks, would that turn a rock into an apple?

For the same reason, making a law stating that a "marriage" now included a union of two men, does not turn a union of two men into a marriage.
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