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I think this needs to be done, or something like it.
If we make the changes now, they decrease will be small (<5%), if we wait 20 years, it will be > 25%. We need to stick it to this generation of SS folks a bit, so we won't hose the next generation completely. But watch the boomer fvck squeel like pigs over it.
I think this shows that Obama is serious about deficit reduction and entitlement reform. Let's see if the right wingers give him credit.
None of the above is true, at least not in Florida. On the contrary, insurance and property tax has declined.
really...you are going to tell me insurance has declines.....I say not
especially since insurance is based on PREPLACEMENT cost...based of $$/SF
ie a 2000sf house will cost you (florida costs) 125 a square to replace...therefore a 2000sf house will be INSURED for AT LEAST 250k plus interior costs (contents)
housing insurnace has continued to rise in all 50 states...with COASTAL states taking even bigger increases plus flood insurance
And what did Finn Jarber say about cuts in Social Security just 3 years ago..
I will confess that you've been consistant to saying its been going broke, but you objected to cuts in Social Security, but now Obama supports it, you're all fine and dandy.. Well at least he didnt propose abolishing it, because that would mean people would actually need to save money, no, he'd rather punish people and limit how much they can save on 1 day, and then in the next, suggest cuts in social programs thereby increasing the demand to save.
Where did I say I am "fine" with it. It sucks that I have been paying all my life and won't see it when I retire, but like I said 3 yrs ago, the system is going broke, and something has to be done. We have known it was going broke since the 1980s. What I said three years ago, is how I feel today, and how everyone feels about that proposal. The topic back then was Paul Ryan's idea that people like me keep paying into it 100%, so that those who are 55 and older will get 100% benefits, while I get a fraction, or nothing of it when I retire. Does it make sense to draw the line at 55? Why should someone who is 54 get huge reduction in benefits, while the guy who is 55 gets full benefit? No, that was a BS plan, and was doomed to fail, which it did.
It didn't fly, and neither will this one. I said it three years ago, and I said it again today.
I think this needs to be done, or something like it.
If we make the changes now, they decrease will be small (<5%), if we wait 20 years, it will be > 25%. We need to stick it to this generation of SS folks a bit, so we won't hose the next generation completely. But watch the boomer fvck squeel like pigs over it.
I think this shows that Obama is serious about deficit reduction and entitlement reform. Let's see if the right wingers give him credit.
Why do we need to deal with a change in SSA now? Social Security does not contribute to the deficit and has no issue for decades.
really...you are going to tell me insurance has declines.....I say not
especially since insurance is based on PREPLACEMENT cost...based of $$/SF
ie a 2000sf house will cost you (florida costs) 125 a square to replace...therefore a 2000sf house will be INSURED for AT LEAST 250k plus interior costs (contents)
housing insurnace has continued to rise in all 50 states...with COASTAL states taking even bigger increases plus flood insurance
If you look at Florida numbers you will see a dramatic drop in Citizens insurance policies, which are the costliest, and a sharp increase in non-gvernment backes policies, which are cheaper. Mine went down from $2600 to $1600. Taxes went down with the housing disaster when people re-assesed their homes at lower values, but they will creep back up when values rise.
None of the above is true, at least not in Florida. On the contrary, insurance and property tax has declined.
I own literally over 25 different properties, from Ohio, PA, Illinois, and even Florida. Not one of them have I seen a drop in property taxes. While the value dropped on some of them due to the recession, the counties increased the millage rate to offset the changes.
In fact as the economy improves, I expect that they will be far higher than they were before.
Why do we need to deal with a change in SSA now? Social Security does not contribute to the deficit and has no issue for decades.
Actually you continue to be wrong. Social Security is running surpluses, but thats only because it receives over $100B a year from the US Treasury in the form of interest.
That $100B a year, gets added to the yearly deficit.
Why should money get taken out my check to pay for someone elses SS if its gonna be gone in 20 yrs, If they paid into it why they need my money?
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