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Old 04-10-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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I'm a member of the "cut the military spending" club...a proud member in fact.

I'm not against all military spending. Hell, i work for the military and make a good living doing it. But i don't buy the notion that we need to drop 700 billion a year on defense. Sorry, but that sh*t doesn't make any sense. A great general named Eisenhower agreed with me, and did so at the height of the Cold War.

Well, there is no more Cold War, but we're spending money as if there are 3 Cold Wars. If spending on entitlements is unsustainable, then so is large scale defense spending.

We should be spending half of what we're presently spending. At least back to 2001 levels. 700 billion is asenine. And spending billions to defend wealthy nations that can afford their own defense is stupid. We're being played for fools, and people like yourself seem to enjoy it.
Who really cares detroiter?? Just more to add to the deficit. Hell nobody cares anymore just print some more money up. We're well on our way to twenty trillion here soon. I don't think anybody in DC is planning on ever paying it back anyway. Build thirty new laser weapons and put it on the credit card like everything else. Why not??

 
Old 04-10-2013, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Ehm - wut? We'e not burying the health care money with the patient. For end-of-life care it's mostly spent on doctors, nurses etc., and that's a direct injection into the economy. Tying up X billions in military hardware that will - at best - be retired without ever having fired a shot in anger, that's exhausting resources. Now, I'm not starry-eyed enough to suggest that we can do without, but your logic isn't very sound, here.
Better to use the money on something worthwhile than waste on people who are just going to deteriorate over time anyway.

By spending the money on the weapons and all that, it'll eventually find its way back into the economy and help speed up recovery.

I'll concede it's not very sound logic, but it's logical nonetheless.
 
Old 04-10-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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Better to use the money on something worthwhile than waste on people who are just going to deteriorate over time anyway.
I took the bait, didn't i?
 
Old 04-11-2013, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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I took the bait, didn't i?
That's entirely subjective.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 06:23 AM
 
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There are problems with laser weapons though. They continue on and blast through everything in their path even after hitting the target.
Not true- energy is dissipated to targets. Further, if we are aiming lasers skyward, that energy will diminish harmlessly into space.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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Billions taken out of the private economy (i.e. workers pockets)and redistributed to select friends of the administration to create tools of destruction? Yeah sounds perfectly logical
On the other hand the money could remain in the economy and individuals could spend it on things to improve their quality of life.
We all learned from liberal kooks, that taking money out of the economy so government can spend it, boosts the economy because it gets spent immediately. Thats the reason we had increasing welfare and extended unemployment and foodstamps.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 06:30 AM
 
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Ehm - wut? We'e not burying the health care money with the patient. For end-of-life care it's mostly spent on doctors, nurses etc., and that's a direct injection into the economy. Tying up X billions in military hardware that will - at best - be retired without ever having fired a shot in anger, that's exhausting resources. Now, I'm not starry-eyed enough to suggest that we can do without, but your logic isn't very sound, here.
Whether your spending the money on doctors and nurses, or spending it on military construction projects, results in the exact same result. $x spent into the economy, just in different neighborhoods.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 06:31 AM
 
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Better to use the money on something worthwhile than waste on people who are just going to deteriorate over time anyway.

By spending the money on the weapons and all that, it'll eventually find its way back into the economy and help speed up recovery.

I'll concede it's not very sound logic, but it's logical nonetheless.
Its very logical, and all people need to do is look at how wars stimulate economies. WWII comes to mind..
 
Old 04-11-2013, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I suggest reading David Drake's "Hammer's Slammers" novels to understand the use of directed energy weapons.

IMHO - These weapons are a phenomenal waste of time, effort and money. We have more important things to do than protect Saudi heritics and Zionist fools from their own idiocy.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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Who really cares detroiter?? Just more to add to the deficit. Hell nobody cares anymore just print some more money up. We're well on our way to twenty trillion here soon. I don't think anybody in DC is planning on ever paying it back anyway. Build thirty new laser weapons and put it on the credit card like everything else. Why not??
Ok...well if that's how you come down, what else can i say?
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