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Old 04-11-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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'The funny thing is that Americans voted this guy into a SECOND TERM, thus perpetuating thier own misery.' -
I said the exact same thing when Bush was voted in a second time. When you stop and think about it, the sheeple count is about the same for both parties.

Bush was not great, but the options were Kerry and Gore, so it was an easy decision.

In the 2012 election, people could have elected Romney. Instead, they served themselves up four more years of increased debt, high unemployment, and lower incomes. The US has no one to blame but themselves for being such idiots.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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there are now more than 101 million working age Americans that do not have a job.
That is patently false. The entire U.S. labor force (people of working age) is 155 million.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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None of that changes the fact that the 101 million unemployed number is pretty much crap from an objective point of view.
And none of that changes the fact that Obama's "Mission Accomplished" err "Recovery" has actually seen 1) a drop in America's employment rate 2) increase in poverty rate 3) millions and millions more on food stamps 4) less household income, etc...
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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101 million = Everyone over the age of 16 in high school, in college, disabled, and retired.
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None of that changes the fact that the 101 million unemployed number is pretty much crap from an objective point of view.
According to the BLS, in March 2013, the US...

Civilian noninstitutional population: 244,995,000
Employed Civilian labor force: 143,286,000

and the labor force participation rate is a paltry: 63.3%

Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted

It looks like that figure is 101,709,000
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:10 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Bush was not great, but the options were Kerry and Gore, so it was an easy decision.

In the 2012 election, people could have elected Romney. Instead, they served themselves up four more years of increased debt, high unemployment, and lower incomes. The US has no one to blame but themselves for being such idiots.
your entire comment is wrong, both John Kerry and Al Gore would have made better presidents than George Bush and president Obama is a far better president than Romney could have ever wished to have been. Now of course that is all my opinion, the next part wont be though.

Governor Romney's own unemployment figures said he would keep pace with what the CBO had predicted President Obama to do, while adding 6 trillion dollars more to the debt.

the argument of lower incomes is moronic, especially considering how republicans gripe about the calculation of the amount of people who are no longer looking for a job. The same goes for income. a person with 0 income is not averaged into the data because they dont have a job, but if that person gets a low paying job, they bring down the average income level calculation more than if they had not had the job at all.

And i last time i checked, it is better to have a job, than no job at all.

More people have a job than before president Obama was elected. And no president has decreased the debt in well over 100 years.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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And still Obama wants to give amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens.
Because the employment numbers will go up.....

actually it's because his goal is the destruction of the united states and he's well on his way.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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you do not count people not lookig for work as unemplyed in any system.It would be usek less.The nubers are just a xcompariosn of governament records of those seekig work only that has been well known for decades. The numbers of nonparticiapting of work age itsself is skewed by those retired early;i college and mnay otehr reasons.It went up i the 70's recession because mnay actaulyl went back for trainig or college under existing programs.No one disagres that employment is still lagging but there are alos mnay reasons for that to include poor match of skills to positions needed.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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And none of that changes the fact that Obama's "Mission Accomplished" err "Recovery" has actually seen 1) a drop in America's employment rate 2) increase in poverty rate 3) millions and millions more on food stamps 4) less household income, etc...

Americans see biggest one-month decline in income in 20 years - Mar. 1, 2013

Americans saw their income drop so dramatically in January that it marked the deepest one-month decline in 20 years.

Personal income decreased by $505.5 billion in January, or 3.6%, compared to December (on a seasonally adjusted and annualized basis). That's the most dramatic decline since January 1993, according to the Commerce Department.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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And still Obama wants to give amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens.
Actually a significantly higher number, 11 millions is what they estimated was here illegally back when Bush was president, and even though they know about a million show up each year, they never up their estimates.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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According to the BLS, in March 2013, the US...

Civilian noninstitutional population: 244,995,000
Employed Civilian labor force: 143,286,000

and the labor force participation rate is a paltry: 63.3%

Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted

It looks like that figure is 101,709,000

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