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Old 04-10-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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Gun nuts are crazy no one is trying to take their guns....


NY Gun Confiscation Underway - Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms



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Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Remember all those who denied that firearms confiscation as a result of New York’s new gun laws was too “insane” to even consider?
That it was strictly in the realm of paranoid conspiracy theorists and the “it cant happen here crowd”?
Those were and remain some of the standard replies to anyone who even thought about the possibility, let alone gave voice to it, despite the fact that Gov Cuomo and numerous other officials made public comments about such a plan, as I discussed in my article “Feinstein & Cuomo Admit Planning Australian Style Government Gun Buy Back” .
Elected Officials, the media, various Gun Control Groups and their zealous forced disarmament supporters, even some firearms owners themselves all insisted it was to crazy to even consider.
There’s just one huge problem it is happening now in New York State!
It seems those that tried desperately to warn of such an insidious plot had hit the bullseye with their warnings after all. News came from multiple NY State based firearms enthusiast websites late Friday that confiscations of Pistol Owner ID Cards, as well as firearms and accessories has commenced in NY under the provisions of the horribly flawed, draconian and blatantly unconstitutional NY SAFE Act.
Those folks having their weapons and FID cards confiscated have been discovered to have been prescribed multiple different types of psychotropic drugs, such as those for Depression or Anxiety. These are known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) class drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to initiate a concentrated denial of service hacker attack against Ammoland Shooting Sports News (see Daily KOS ” Keeping Track Of The RKBA Crowd” Daily Kos: Keeping track of the RKBA crowd), in an effort to keep the information from the public.
From NY NYS Police Departments Revoking Pistol Permits because of Anti-Anxiety Meds
“John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.
Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now, before anyone trots out the old saw about how this is nothing more then a paranoid, unsubstantiated rumor on a “gun nuts” internet forum. I spoke to the Attorney of Record in this matter on the phone this morning and he confirmed that the above snippet is accurate and these cases are happening!

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James Tresmond Esq confirmed in our conversation that the above mentioned case is occurring in Erie County NY, it is his client that has been effected, and as yet unknown sources have seen fit to take it upon themselves to share confidential medical records with NY State Officials without authorization, a massive HIPPA violation.
It seems these supposedly confidential records are then compared against a list of known NY pistol license holders and letters are sent out demanding their Pistol Owner ID Cards be surrendered, as well as any firearms and accessories.
Here is a link to the Attorney of Record on this case, Jim Tresmond, giving a radio interview on the Tom Bauerle Show on WBEN 930AM/107.7 FM:
Bauerle With Jim Tresmond - WBEN NewsRadio 930 : Buffalo & Niagara Falls, NY
This is an unprecedented violation of a Citizens 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment RIGHTS, brought to fruition by power and control hungry tyrants holding elected office who swore an Oath to uphold and defend the very rights they are now actively stripping from their constituents.
Moreover, the confiscation efforts underway in NY State have had another, albeit unintended effect. By undertaking this course of action, those in power have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on something they have suppressed from the Citizens for far to long, leaving them with precious little wiggle room to explain away their actions.
Either they are acknowledging that there is in fact some sort of little reported link between the prescribing of psychotropic drugs and violent behavior, thus they are somehow, at least in their own minds “justified” in their actions to preempt someone from violence.
Or, this is nothing more then a backdoor confiscation effort and massive abuse of governmental power unleashed on innocent Citizens.
Those are the only two possible explanations.
If anyone still feels some level of doubt regarding the veracity of this story, Attorney Tresmond welcomes anyone to visit his website tresmondlaw.com, Facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/james.tresmond.7 ), or send an email to TresmondLaw@gmail.com.
Mr Tresmond asks that those making inquiries be mindful and respectful of the fact that they have been deluged with inquiries in recent days and therefore a personal reply may be delayed or impossible due to the volume.


Read more at Ammoland.com: NY Gun Confiscation Underway - Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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Gun nuts are crazy no one is trying to take their guns....


NY Gun Confiscation Underway - Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms



oh wait...
Geez..... I am so glad I left that bat**** crazy moonbat haven. Many have also left due to its increasing backwardness over the years
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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"Nobody wants to take away your guns"...

Hmmmmm, where have I heard that before?
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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Ttt
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I read it on the internet so it must be true, eh?

Article was published 4/8. Three days later and not a word from anyone in NY state about this. Where's the Fox? Did they take Hannity's guns?
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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All prescriptions written in the state of New York, are copied to the state itself. I don't know why. I also don't know what the laws in NY are, regarding privacy of those copies in possession of the state. Is it legal for NY state police to access those prescription records, for the purpose of deciding who can and can't be allowed to own guns?

The guy in New York whose pistol permit was yanked because he had a prescription to anti-anxiety medicine, has retained a lawyer to pursure the case, a lawyer who specializes in gun-rights cases.

The case is new, and has barely gotten started. The matter is being followed closely in New York. Here are two forum threads that deal with it, which frequently get posts from the law firm handling it:

The guy who had his permit revoked because of a prescription:
NYS Police Departments Revoking Pistol Permits because of Anti-Anxiety Meds

A class-action suit filed earlier, against New York's new gun law (Called the "SAFE Act"):
Tresmond Lawsuit information - USE THIS THREAD
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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And now there is already another development: The NY police says they made a mistake!

But was the mistake, that they revoked a law-abiding citizen's pistol permit because he had a prescription for anti-anxiety meds?

Nope. The mistake was that they revoked THE WRONG law-abiding citizen's permit because he had a prescription for anti-anxiety meds!

And what is the State's greatest concern now? Are they appalled that they restricted the rights of an innocent man?

Naw. They are simply embarrassed because they "all look foolish".

Sigh.

Why do I get the feeling this isn't over?

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/11/oops-new-york-state-police-admit-to-big-mistake-in-gun-confiscation-case/

Oops! New York State Police Admit to Major Mistake in Gun Confiscation Case

Apr. 11, 2013 10:22am Mike Opelka


In a surprising turnaround, New York State Police have admitted that they made a mistake when they confiscated the guns and suspended the permit of an Erie County resident on the grounds of mental health.

Late Wednesday, Erie County, NY, released a statement (see link) blaming the New York State Police for giving them bad information regarding the suspension of a pistol permit and demand to surrender firearms sent to Amherst resident David Lewis.

(Mr. Lewis was not identified in our original story, his name has since been released in conjunction with court documents filed by his attorney, Jim Tresmond.)

“Erie County Clerk Chris Jacobs said that late today he received a call from the New York State Police informing him that they had provided information on the wrong person when they notified his office of someone whose permit should be suspended because of the new mental health provisions in New York’s SAFE Act,” the release begins.

“When the State Police called to tell us they made a mistake and had the wrong person … it become clear that the state did not do their job here and now we all look foolish,” the release went on to say in a quote from Clerk Jacobs.

Jacobs appeared on WBEN radio in Buffalo on Thursday morning and explained the details of this administrative debacle. Mr. Jacobs also delivered some pointed comments about how the law was written so badly that mistakes like this were bound to happen. He closed with some fairly damning statements and also asked the state to consider scrapping the bill and re-writing it.

“When you write a piece of legislation in a vacuum, without having hearings, without talking to people about how it’s going to implemented in the real world — without jeopardizing people’s rights, and putting an individual like this through a nightmarish experience, and infringe on their rights, you have to go back to the drawing board,” he said. “And I encourage the legislative leadership here and mostly our governor to take a step back and say ‘we didn’t get it right’ and let’s change this.”

After the press release was issued by the state, TheBlaze spoke with one of Mr. Lewis’ attorney, Max Tresmond.

“We won round one,” he said, “round two will be a suit against the state for what they did to our client and his reputation.”
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Ammo land and the Blaze are the "reliable sources?" Run for the hills gun nuts, the government is coing for ya!
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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As usual, when little urbanlife can't refute the facts, he tries to attack the messenger instead. (yawn)
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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But they told me I was crazy when I believed they would confiscate guns.
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