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Old 04-14-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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COMMUNISM SURVIVOR BLASTS SALEM GUN GRABBERS: "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FREEDOM IS!" - YouTube

I find it fascinating that many of the most staunch proponents of the 2nd Amendment are from nations that have seen what happens when the people have no way to fend off a tyrannical government.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:47 AM
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People continue to believe our all knowing,all powerfull central government is somehow different then the rest...there is enough evidence to prove it isn't.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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People continue to believe our all knowing,all powerfull central government is somehow different then the rest...there is enough evidence to prove it isn't.
Apparently the gun rights are working! People have been able to kill public defenders, police, and our presidents!
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:09 AM
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Apparently the gun rights are working! People have been able to kill public defenders, police, and our presidents!
And vise versa
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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"I know of no civilized country, indeed, in which liberty is less esteemed than it is in the United States today; certainly there is none in which more persistent efforts are made to limit it and put it down."
-- H. L. Mencken
He's right. We take our freedom for granted, and there are people who work tirelessly to strip it from themselves, in the name of public safety.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
People just don't understand that the freedom they enjoy comes at a cost. Nobody want to see bad things happen to good people, but in a free society, bad people will do bad things.

It's completely impossible to eradicate evil. I would rather live with the evil deeds of a few individuals than the evil of living under an oppressive government.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Apparently the gun rights are working! People have been able to kill public defenders, police, and our presidents!
We have also been able to kill off people performing, Home Invasions,

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/14...est=latestnews

Media blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen


Media blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

Wisconsin Crime Stopped by Legally Armed Citizen

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm...armed-citizen/

And more info, a list containing 162 pages, of a legally armed citizen, stopping/preventing a crime, or saving/protecting themselves.

NRA-ILA | Armed Citizen
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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COMMUNISM SURVIVOR BLASTS SALEM GUN GRABBERS: "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FREEDOM IS!" - YouTube

I find it fascinating that many of the most staunch proponents of the 2nd Amendment are from nations that have seen what happens when the people have no way to fend off a tyrannical government.
Freedom isn't guns. Freedom is freedom, including the freedom from the threat posed by idiots and sickos with guns.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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We have also been able to kill off people performing, Home Invasions,

Home invasion suspects killed in gunfight with NC homeowner | Fox News

Media blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen


Media blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

Wisconsin Crime Stopped by Legally Armed Citizen

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm...armed-citizen/

And more info, a list containing 162 pages, of a legally armed citizen, stopping/preventing a crime, or saving/protecting themselves.

NRA-ILA | Armed Citizen
Just heard about this one today, although it's a couple months old. A junior high school basketball coach protected himself and two female students - on campus - against two armed thugs.

Martin Luther King Jr. High School coach shoots attackers
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Freedom isn't guns. Freedom is freedom, including the freedom from the threat posed by idiots and sickos with guns.
See post #5.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:37 AM
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Freedom isn't guns. Freedom is freedom, including the freedom from the threat posed by idiots and sickos with guns.
Is being denied the possession of an inanimate object used to protect ones self,your idea of freedom?
Or should the state have a monopoly on guaranteeing personal safety?
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