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Old 04-15-2013, 04:39 AM
 
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Jumping into the conversation...

You don't think it is a bit ridiculous that Obama supporters often bring up Bush instead of defending Obama? Perhaps it is fitting since in so many ways they are practically the same guy on so many policies.


Typical conversation:

-Obama just did a signing statement.

--So what Bush did them too.

-Bush didn't say they were illegal, promise not to do them, say that they were against his core fundamental beliefs and values, and then do it 2 months after the election. Obama did.

--Bush was the liar.


Bush was an awful president. Obama isn't any better. When do we get to hold Obama accountable for his own actions?
What do you want Obama held accountable for? Extending health insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or saving the U.S. auto industry?
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:45 AM
 
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Yet, they will ALL make the necessary "adjustments" to beat the law.

(or, they'll get exemptions)
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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For some actual news on Obamacare we have this to peruse .. I am sure everyone can find some things to detest.

On Tax Day, some will see how Obamacare will affect them - CBS News
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:03 AM
 
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What do you want Obama held accountable for? Extending health insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or saving the U.S. auto industry?
Possibly some reading might in order:

This link is fairly comprehensive in exposing the fallacies within Obamacare:
As ObamaCare crumbles, Obama returns to--Can you guess?--fundraising by Andrew Malcolm - Investors.com
Here's a huge compilation of lies that Obama has told during his presidency. It's quite extensive, so pack a lunch:
LIST OF OBAMA LIES 2012 - UPDATED - OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES
If you need more information regarding "accountability" just let us know.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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For those who think the media is not Obama's propaganda machine you missed the good old days when the NYTimes, for instance, would actually do research on news stories and give perspective along with the story.

Pols could never get away with saying, "we have to pass it to see what's in it" they would be excoriated by the press, their spokesman would claim the comment was made in a state of exhaustion and a long hospital stay had already begun.

The press would have twisted obama dry on many of his policy reversals, at least, demanding to know the reason for his latest position. The press would have been all over the trend to intentionally waste taxpayer money on solar boondogles. No such followup by the press.

To not see the protective wall constructed around Obama by the media is to be hopelessly blind and ultimately damned.

It wasn't that suddenly BB wrote an article and millions were provided with talking points. Any single celled creature with human DNA, that knew to come in out of the rain, could see the media grooms following Obama's parade with a shovel and a broom.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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What do you want Obama held accountable for? Extending health insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or saving the U.S. auto industry?
" saving the U.S. auto industry?" The WHOLE industry! A bit of a stretch there, don't you think?

How did he help Ford, Toyota, BMW, Honda, VW and the rest of the companies that makes up the "Auto industry,

When are the GM bond holders going to get what is owed them?
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I thought the Main Stream Media pretty much gave obama a free ride on everything. Criticism of what THE ONE does is quite obviously lacking!
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I thought the Main Stream Media pretty much gave obama a free ride on everything. Criticism of what THE ONE does is quite obviously lacking!
There is some criticism but they usually fault the Repubs for causing it.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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The mainstream media protects the republicans.


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Its easy to prove. Which of the following events did the media cover more ??

1. GW Bush (rep) lied and said Iraq had something to do with Sept 11, (Iraq had nothing to do with sept 11)

2. Bill Clinton (dem) lied about his personal sex life.

Which event did the media cover more?
Answer: the media attacked Clinton 1,000x worse.
Uh, yeah, because #1 never happened. You expect them to make stuff up? Ok, well I guess you do, since you're an obvious liberal, and that's what the liberal media outlets do, but you can't seriously be arguing that!

Can you?
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Good thing I was already sitting the toilet for my morning constitutional when I saw this thread.
TMI, Bob... TMI.
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