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Old 04-20-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Do people have to be issued an ' Islamic Jihadist' card from the Taliban to see the country from a jihadist perspective ? Whether these guys acted out of a larger anti-American worldview promoted by that perspective, or were they sick punk little creeps who decided to in your words 'have their fun' terrorizing people is unknown.
You tell me: do the members of the Westboro Baptist church see the country from a Christian persepctive? What makes those folks tick?

 
Old 04-20-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: FL
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Someone said they didn't hear them command him to come out of the boat. I did hear that. They told him to come out of his own will (implying that if he didn't, they were coming after him). That was shortly before we heard he was in custody.

I think the police did a great job. Can't believe people are now criticizing the way it was handled. The suspects are no longer on the loose, and that was the goal. Don't understand why some are so critical.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You forgot about the firearms they were carrying. Were these things poorly regulated or well regulated? That's the question.
As a 19 year old, it was illegal for him to purchase a handgun anywhere in the US. Just one more gun control law that failed to serve any purpose. Criminals...don't obey laws.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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We do have current background checks. So say we had enhanced background checks.

What convictions did this 19 year old have that so many think enhanced background checks would have prevented him from getting a gun ?

And was the gun obtained legally or illegally ?

I guess I'm not up to date. What news came out that many now think enhanced background checks, retroactive to God knows when, would have kept a gun out of this 19 year old's hands ?
I don't know why you're asking these questions of me. I don't know anything about gun laws, already said so.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 09:59 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I hope they don't release his name.
They must already have; I know someone on ABC yesterday was talking about having spoken with him (he wouldn't go on camera) and that he was "on the verge of tears" (the reporter's words).
 
Old 04-20-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The fringe left (and the fringe right) probably do have more insight into radicalization because they live it.

Maddow is equivalent to the right's Sean Hannity. I wouldn't give either one of them another thought.
One big difference between Maddow and Hannity, Maddow doesn't pretend to represent anything other than her political opinions.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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We do have current background checks. So say we had enhanced background checks.

What convictions did this 19 year old have that so many think enhanced background checks would have prevented him from getting a gun ?

And was the gun obtained legally or illegally ?

I guess I'm not up to date. What news came out that many now think enhanced background checks, retroactive to God knows when, would have kept a gun out of this 19 year old's hands ?
The 26 year old had a history of domestic violence that would have prevented him from getting a gun.

But at this point, no one knows who the gun belonged to, so it's a moot point.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't know why you're asking these questions of me. I don't know anything about gun laws, already said so.
Nevermind..Toyman did. It's illegal for a 19 year old to obtain a handgun via legal avenues.
No gun law, present or future, could prevent that.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The 26 year old had a history of domestic violence that would have prevented him from getting a gun.

But at this point, no one knows who the gun belonged to, so it's a moot point.
I think even discussing it is a moot point but we have some posters here trying to connect it with gun control legislation.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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As a 19 year old, it was illegal for him to purchase a handgun anywhere in the US. Just one more gun control law that failed to serve any purpose. Criminals...don't obey laws.
Give me a break. That is some very specious logic. The gun controls in this country are so lax that they barely exist. And that is why they need major tightening. Of course any nut can get a gun. That is exactly what the NRA wants. More guns=more violence=more paranoia=more guns= more $$$$! Simple math at the detriment of human lives.
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