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Old 04-16-2013, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I could have missed this on the news, but so far I haven't heard Obama use any form of the word "terrorism" regarding the bombings in Boston yet (as of 4/16/13 at 12:23 pm).

Has he, to anyone's knowledge?

Do you believe this term is an important designation? Does it make any difference or not? Do you believe using the term, or choosing not to use that term, is significant?
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I just found out that Obama said this about an hour ago:

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“This was heinous and cowardly act, and given what we now know about what took place, the FBI is investigating it as an act of terrorism. Any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror,” the president told reporters at the White House shortly after being briefed by his national security team.
Boston Bombings ‘Act Of Terrorism,’ Obama Says - ABC News

So - he says it's being investigated as an act of terrorism. And actually, ABC - he STILL hasn't said directly that this IS A TERRORIST ATTACK. Remember - he's a lawyer. Pay very close attention to the exact phraseology.

To me, there is no QUESTION that it's terrorism. There was no question yesterday, as soon as the first bomb was found. Bomb - detonation - civilian targets - TERRORISM.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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I'm not a lawyer, but I don't understand how simply using a bomb makes it an act of terrorism. People can use bombs to kill civilians for non-political reasons. The Columbine Massacre used bombs, but it was not labeled terrorism because it was not politically motivated.

So either the FBI has evidence that this is politically motivated, or this is propaganda.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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yes
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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Well, it wasn't an accident and I don't see how it could be classified as workplace violence (like the Ft. Hood terror attacks were). Even if the perps were "home-grown", it would still be terrorism.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Well, it wasn't an accident and I don't see how it could be classified as workplace violence (like the Ft. Hood terror attacks were). Even if the perps were "home-grown", it would still be terrorism.
No. Not if it is a crazy person who just wants to kill random people for no political reason. Is that likely? No. The odds are that it is politically motivated, but you can't assume that without knowing the facts.

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United States Law Code – the law that governs the entire country – contains a definition of terrorism embedded in its requirement that Annual Country reports on Terrorism be submitted by the Secretary of State to Congress every year. (From U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)
(d) Definitions
As used in this section—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means terrorism involving citizens or the territory of more than 1 country;
(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;
-http://terrorism.about.com/od/whatisterroris1/ss/DefineTerrorism_5.htm
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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I think it has to be an organized group to be terrorism.

That lone guy who blew up the Atlanta Olympics was not labeled a "terrorist".

Or the Sandy Hook guy for that matter.

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Old 04-16-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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Well, just to show that Obama's not anti explosives, he's going to let off some lady finger firecrackers during a press op at 1900 tonight EST.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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I think it has to be an organized group to be terrorism.

That lone guy who blew up the Atlanta Olympics as not labeled a "terrorist".

Or the Sandy Hook guy for that matter.
Eric Robert Rudolph. And, actually, the Olympic bombing was labelled terror.

CNN - Clinton pledges thorough effort to find Olympic park bomber - July 27, 1996
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President Bill Clinton pledged Saturday morning that authorities will "spare no effort" to find and punish those responsible for the deadly bombing at Centennial Olympic Park.

"The bombing ... was an evil act of terror," the president said, eschewing his scheduled weekly radio address to respond to the explosion. "It was aimed at the innocent people who were participating in the Olympic Games, an act of cowardice that stands in sharp contrast to the courage of the Olympic athletes."
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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It certainly wasn't a "prank".
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