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Old 04-17-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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...and there have been no issues in those states that have lists, but this vote was not even about lists maintained by the feds, there was nothing in the legislation relative to maintaining records in fact there were large penalties preventing just that issue.


do you really believe that the feds actually destroy the lists they get from the NICS after the 90 days mandated by congress. yeah right

 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Obamacare perhaps (although definitely not an overwhelming majority), but not universal health care. Oh well, we'll get there one day too with a single-payer system. I think under President Clinton in 2016!
Chris Matthews on Hillary Clinton

Matthews' offenses against Ms. Clinton (and a few other female political figures) and it's abhorrent. Some of the names Matthews has called Ms. Clinton? "She Devil," "Nurse Ratched,"

Matthews also spouted that Clinton is "witchy," "anti-male" and "uppity." And he was one of the first to mock Ms. Clinton's laugh, saying "what do you make of the cackle?" Matthews has questioned whether a woman can lead.

Matthews appeared on MSNBC's Morning Joe program and said of Clinton,
“the reason she's a U.S. senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around. That's how she got to be senator from New York. We keep forgetting it.

Chris Matthews said "She (Hillary) didn't win there on her merit."

The comments were criticized by such media figures as Bill O'Reilly, Joy Behar, and Gloria Steinem. They also resulted in protests outside NBC's Washington, D.C., studios as well as a joint letter of complaint to NBC from the National Organization for Women, Feminist Majority, and the National Women's Political Caucus.

Chris Matthews Opportunist at work flip flops and says.

Chris Matthews spoke into the camera during his Monday night "Hardball" show and told Hillary Clinton, "we'll get you in there," regarding her likely bid for the presidency in 2016.

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Old 04-17-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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As a Democrat and NRA life member I am extremely pleased with the defeat.

Remember this fellow Democrat's; There are things that you just shouldn't touch and the U.S. Constitution is one of those things.
 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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So what's the argument, we should make it easier for them. There are many people that circumvent laws, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have any regulations.
The argument is that we should address the disease, mental health and not the symptoms, the mentally ill that misuses their rights because they do not understand them.
 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:15 PM
 
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The argument is that we should address the disease, mental health and not the symptoms, the mentally ill that misuses their rights because they do not understand them.
Funny because that is one of the first proposals put out by Obama after sandy hook along with armed officers in schools. Now it's all been thrown to the side and HE claims folks are playing politics. It is quite amazing to watch this stuff happen in real life and watch the sheep get all wound out at the lies they are fed by these folks.
 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:15 PM
 
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Darkness never prevails. The light will always win. Yes, America WILL win. Voters who support both the second amendment and basic common sense gun laws will not forget this betrayal of the country on the part of the Senate Republicans. We have long memories. We will make this country a safe place for our innocent babies. We will win in the end. You will lose. We love our country and WE VOTE.


basic common sense? how about common sense like NFA34, GCA68, GCA86, part of AWB94 still, and how about the 25,000 gun control laws already on state and federal law books?

if none of those gun laws are basic common sense, then how about getting rid of them all.
 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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do you really believe that the feds actually destroy the lists they get from the NICS after the 90 days mandated by congress. yeah right
So true. These nuts don't even think Unicorns can fly either... how dumb?
 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes current background checks do work, not perfectly but they do work that is why they should have been expanded.
Expanded to private treaty. Ok, how do you enforce that or even know it's occurred ?
Unless one has a list of all gun owners..right ?
 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:20 PM
 
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Default whats happening to america

If we take a real look at gun violence. dont we find its criminals with the stolen guns not regular citizins who are responsible for these crimes. criminals are not supposed to have them any way so why is our government trying to disarm us. what is there hidden agenda??? So we cant protect ourself but I bet all the people fighting to pass the laws have access or guns. Dident Hitler disarm the puplic befor he turned on them.....
 
Old 04-17-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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So true. These nuts don't even think Unicorns can fly either... how dumb?


do you really believe the feds? would you be saying the same thing if the list was not about firearms, but about citizens on the ndaa. if the feds were told to destroy any lists made of people that were not suspects, would you actually believe that the feds would destroy them? I sure as hell would not.

especially if you or someone you know was on that list.
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