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Old 04-28-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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In any event, as I've said twice before in this thread, the US has one of the LOWEST rates of age at first pregnancy. I even posted some charts.
yes the US would have """""one of the lowest rates of age at first pregnancy""""""...especially since it has the HIGHEST RATE of TEEN prego's too...and New Mexico is has the highest rate of all 50 states

btw teen prego's...high risk, with usually lower baby weight


according to webMD...high risk prego's are defined as..."""You are younger than 17 or older than 35.""""


but then again you should know that, being a pedatric nurse
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:55 PM
 
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repeating the spin from the WHO

yes we are 30 something...37 according tothe WHO





WHO's lifespan (life expectancy) has been debunked a dozen times

the usa ranked 36. a LE of 78.8

the highest is japan at 82.6


the difference between us and france ....1.6 year

the difference between us and canada.....1.6 year


the difference between us and germany...a HALF a year

the differnce between us and the untied kingdom...4 months




life expectance is more about genetics and life style, than health care

we have a longer life expectancy than them as a whole

the number one place for life expectancy of asian women....USA


not to mention that life expectancy is more about genetics and LIFE STYLES (ie hamhocks, fried twinkies, and fried chicken, mcdonalds, fatbacks certainly dont help)

most other places..they walk/bike
most other places dont have 4 tv's to a house


posting about life expectancy..means actually very little to medicine

difference between us and the highest is....3.3 years ...is that realivily low (79yrs-82yrs)

and the reason...

is not health care


its....


LIFE STYLE (especially EATING, and EXERCISE), and democraphics (ethnics)
demographics, to include eating habits, GENES, TEEN PREGNANCIES, traffic, cancer, etc..ALL effect those numbers


yes I said traffic accidents....you think that the 2x amount of traffic accidents (of the world) is NOT going to lower the top level???



btw

asians have the HIGHEST life span...and FEMALE ASIAN AMERICANS have the highest life expectancy IN THE WORLD

its demographics


if you compared country "A" to country "B"...and said "A" has an average age of 38..and "B" has an average age of 51...which country do you think would be more PRODUCTIVE and HEALTHY

its the demographics


its like the life expectancy list

the USa has an AVERAGE life expectacny of 78.9 (number 30 something on the list)

but if you break it down further

in the USA, the asian american female has a life expectancy of 86(the HIGHEST in the WORLD)(((higher than the 82 in the actual country of japan)))
..whites are around 83...hispanics around 76...and blacks have a LOW LIFE expectacy around 66m/68f....giving us the AVERAGE of 78.9.....if you took the (12-15% population) of blacks of that list..we would have one of the top three life expectancies in the world....

demographic plays BIG ROLES

funny japan is higher than any of the european countries...in life expectancy..and the 3rd lowest in infant mortality....connected...hmmmmm....certainly genetic


we also have the HIGHEST teen pregnancy ...which leads to low baby weight, and high infant mortality.....and the hightest DEMOGRAPHIC with teen pregancies...the african americans (especially southern AA)


life expectancy is not about health care.. but about healthy living.....too bad the liberhaddists dont understand that
Keep in mind, the US also spends much more (in combined private and public funds) on health care on a per capita basis than any other country in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...%29_per_capita
This is also true on a percentage of GDP basis. If other countries matched our spending, just imagine what their health care results would be like.

Also, you talk about car accidents as if their high frequency is unrelated to our nation's health care system. But the truth of the matter is that many car accidents are caused at least in part because of untreated alcoholism and other mental conditions.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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yes the US would have """""one of the lowest rates of age at first pregnancy""""""...especially since it has the HIGHEST RATE of TEEN prego's too...and New Mexico is has the highest rate of all 50 states

btw teen prego's...high risk, with usually lower baby weight


according to webMD...high risk prego's are defined as..."""You are younger than 17 or older than 35.""""


but then again you should know that, being a pedatric nurse
I probably do know more about it than you! I don't know why you're carrying on this hijack.

The teen pregnancy rate is higher in the US but it is dropping. Maybe you should look at the link I posted, which gave some graphs which showed age at first birth by age. You seem to think the other countries have no teen pregnancies. For decades, Europeans have gotten married later and had kids later than in the US. But you knew all that, right, since you know everything about population statistics?
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I probably do know more about it than you! I don't know why you're carrying on this hijack.

The teen pregnancy rate is higher in the US but it is dropping. Maybe you should look at the link I posted, which gave some graphs which showed age at first birth by age. You seem to think the other countries have no teen pregnancies. For decades, Europeans have gotten married later and had kids later than in the US. But you knew all that, right, since you know everything about population statistics?
Despite a one-third decline since the early 1990s, the United States still has the highest rates of teen pregnancy and birth among comparable countries. In 2007, the U.S. teen birth rate was 42.5 births per 1,000 girls age 15-19. By way of comparison, the U.S. teen birth rate is nearly two times higher than the United Kingdom (26.7 per 1,000), which has the highest teen birth rate in Europe, and nearly ten times higher than the teen birth rate in Switzerland (4.3 per 1,000) which has the lowest teen birth rate in Europe. In addition, the U.S. teen birth rate is more than three times higher than the teen birth rate in Canada (13.3 per 1,000).

nice graph here... http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/r...Comparison.pdf
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:30 AM
 
Location: California
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Your scenario shows why a universal health care plan would have been the way to go. IIRC that is what the newly elected president was shooting for but it was shot down.
This country is still one of the richest most powerful countries on the planet and we still have hundreds of thousands of people who can't afford treatment when they are ill. We can afford to bomb anyone we want, but not take care of people who are sick. It's pretty shameful.

As for the costs rising, this was going to happen regardless. People can't afford the ER visits, people can't afford insurance. Therefore people go to ER to get anything done because of the belief that the ER doctors have to take care of everyone who comes in. Then when they can't afford their thousands of dollars bills it goes into collections, now the hospital hasn't been paid a penny. Well they have to make up that money, so the prices rise. Of course once medical costs rise, insurance rises.
I don't believe that the ACA was the best move, but it was better than no move. EVERYONE that sat in the oval office said they were going to come up with something but never did squat. Hopefully people will one day see that medical care for everyone is just as important as public education, police protection & military and will quit the "socialism" nonsense the next time someone brings up the idea of universal health care.
Nice post, I did bold one part as it is not a belief but a sad fact.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Despite a one-third decline since the early 1990s, the United States still has the highest rates of teen pregnancy and birth among comparable countries. In 2007, the U.S. teen birth rate was 42.5 births per 1,000 girls age 15-19. By way of comparison, the U.S. teen birth rate is nearly two times higher than the United Kingdom (26.7 per 1,000), which has the highest teen birth rate in Europe, and nearly ten times higher than the teen birth rate in Switzerland (4.3 per 1,000) which has the lowest teen birth rate in Europe. In addition, the U.S. teen birth rate is more than three times higher than the teen birth rate in Canada (13.3 per 1,000).

nice graph here... http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/r...Comparison.pdf
But how much of the US's high teen birth rate is due to a lack of contraceptive medical coverage and insufficient sex education instruction in school?
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: California
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But how much of the US's high teen birth rate is due to a lack of contraceptive medical coverage and insufficient sex education instruction in school?
Or perhaps it is because they know Uncle Sam will take care of them too...
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