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Old 04-20-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Agreed. Then tie him to a bumper and drag him 26 miles down the marathon route. Stick a grenade in his pocket at the end.
Cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional.
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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I hope the entire idea of a citizen especially on american soil being labeled an Enemy Combatant is fought and brought before the Supreme Court. I can not see how it would stand based upon precedent.

The courts have ruled that while foreigners are afforded most rights here, they are things that Congress can legally remove from them.

This entire suppresion of miranda rights came about because of a lower court ruling that allowed this with a Nigerian terrorist, not an American citizen.

I will argue that this would be allowed if passed by Congress but not where it comes to an American citizen. The courts have ruled many times that constitutional rights can not simply be dismissed by politicians.
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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I hope the entire idea of a citizen especially on american soil being labeled an Enemy Combatant is fought and brought before the Supreme Court. I can not see how it would stand based upon precedent.

The courts have ruled that while foreigners are afforded most rights here, they are things that Congress can legally remove from them.

This entire suppresion of miranda rights came about because of a lower court ruling that allowed this with a Nigerian terrorist, not an American citizen.

I will argue that this would be allowed if passed by Congress but not where it comes to an American citizen. The courts have ruled many times that constitutional rights can not simply be dismissed by politicians.

It's probable that this case will lead to spin-off lawsuits that will take some cases to the SC.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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There is a lot of discussion in D.C. and by TV "experts" of possibly charging the Boston bomber as an enemy combatant. What are your opinions on this discussion?
Got to fill airtime with something!

I cannot think of a single thing that would be gained that can't be acquired in a federal court and state court room considering the laundry list of charges Tsarnaev faces. Hell they tried, sentenced, and executed Tim McVeigh in half the time that it has taken to even begin the trial of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed "the Mastermind of 9/11" and when they tried McVeigh it was only on the federal charges.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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He's a US citizen. He has rights. Period.
You'd better write a letter to Obama and let him know, he doesn't seem to think US Citizens have rights. He feels that he can use NDAA to hold American citizens forever without a trial.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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He should be charged under the following provision:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against
them,
or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.


What the Boston Marathon bomber did is normally classified as an Act of War. Since the younger one is a (naturalized) U.S. citizen, the description of "treason" applies.

Keep in mind that the act is "treason against the United States", not treason against its government. Big difference.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:31 PM
 
Location: NJ
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He should go through the regular justice system.
I agree, and he also should serve a lifetime in gen pop, so his prison buddies can show him, via action, what they think of him.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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He should go through the regular justice system.
They cant afford that! (If what his mother says IS TRUE (Which i believe it is (that they were setup)))
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:20 PM
 
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What the Boston Marathon bomber did is normally classified as an Act of War.
Keep in mind that the act is "treason against the United States", not treason against its government. Big difference.
Nations commit acts of war.

Governments commit acts of war.

Someone should invent a constitution, or something, to restrict a government from committing an act of war.

Oh, wait, someone did!

Nevermind.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:57 PM
 
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There is a lot of discussion in D.C. and by TV "experts" of possibly charging the Boston bomber as an enemy combatant. What are your opinions on this discussion?

My personal take: If they do charge him as an enemy combatant, being he is a US Citizen, it would do far more damage to our country then all the damage he did as a lunatic bomber.

He should be charged, prosecuted, and if found guilty, punished like any other American. We did it with McVeigh, we can do it again. The NDAA is sketchy enough. This current political discussion is borderline disastrous IMHO.
How does one go about losing their US citizenship? Would his action qualify? He got US citizenship last year on of all days 9/11. I'm mad he has US citizenship.. he is one person, IMO that doesn't deserve it. I'd love for us to hand him over to Putin and suggest he reopen a gulag for this loser.
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