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View Poll Results: Are you willing to give up some constitutional rights to feel safe?
I would rather not have any security checks at airports and take my chances on the flight. 64 68.09%
I would be willing to submit to a search without probable cause so that my fight will be safer. 30 31.91%
Voters: 94. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-21-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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This thread is about "sacrificing freedoms afforded by the constitution for safety."
You're right, I was thinking about the poll questions.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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Not enough choices , I'm not voting. Perhaps if we were allowed to profile people's behavior we could have a different kind of check point.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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You're right, I was thinking about the poll questions.
No problem. I used that example for the poll because for years, airport body & bag searches as a constitutional right have been willingly given up for safety.

Yet, I am amazed that an argument against universal background checks for a gun purchase is voted against because it would be an infringement of our constitutional rights and a "slippery slope" thereon.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Exactly like that! We have sacrificed a bit of our constitutional rights for the safety of ourselves and others.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I will gladly sacrifice my "right" to be lied to, in the name of free speech, my "right" to be shot by a criminal or mad man, in the name of gun rights, my right to be killed by "terrorists", in the name of "privacy". . . . . .
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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Not enough choices , I'm not voting. Perhaps if we were allowed to profile people's behavior we could have a different kind of check point.
There are no other choices. Either you submit to a search or you do not go to an airport. Or.............are you suggesting universal background checks before being allowed to fly?
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I will gladly sacrifice my "right" to be lied to, in the name of free speech, my "right" to be shot by a criminal or mad man, in the name of gun rights, my right to be killed by "terrorists", in the name of "privacy". . . . . .
Very good.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Exactly like that! We have sacrificed a bit of our constitutional rights for the safety of ourselves and others.
Actually most people in MA were happy the men and women in uniform were doing all they can to catch the terrorist. It would be another example of "reasonable" search. They are not looking to build a case against you, they are looking for a killer.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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I have seen a number of posts lately stating that we are too willing to give up our freedom for safety. Many of these posts quote;

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin


Are you willing to give up security checks at the airport as this infringes on our the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution to feel safe in airplanes?



Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution:
..... the Ninth Circuit ruled in United States. v. Aukai that "airport screening searches, like the one at issue here, are constitutionally reasonable administrative searches because they are conducted as part of a general regulatory scheme in furtherance of an administrative purpose, namely, to prevent the carrying of weapons or explosives aboard aircraft, and thereby to prevent hijackings."[81]
Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


GO argue with the Supreme Court about it. And when you win, and the plane you or someone else is in gets blown up or hijacked, because, hey, I didn't like that they checked people for stuff. At least you'll have that?

Anyone here remember D.B. Cooper? He's the guy who carried a bomb on a plane and hijacked it. Back then, security was a nod and a wave.
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