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Old 04-22-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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Highlights of his proposal, in response to the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut:

~Expanded background checks for gun purchases.

~Toughen laws by mandating that mental-health records be included in the instant background-check process at the time of a firearm purchase.

~Impose or strengthen criminal penalties for selling firearms to convicted felons, possessing a gun with the intent to unlawfully transfer, unlawfully possessing ammunition, and engaging in firearms trafficking.

~Ban purchases of the .50-caliber Barrett rifle.

~Parental consent for minors to buy violent video games.

~Make it easier for doctors and courts to commit “potentially dangerous” people for mental-health treatment.

Christie said New Jersey’s gun-control laws are already considered the second-toughest in the nation by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He cited the state’s assault- weapons ban, a seven-day waiting period prior to any firearm purchase, the third-strictest capacity laws on magazine capacity in the country and a one-gun-a-month law.

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Old 04-22-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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As someone who resides in NJ and owns guns, I don't find it to be difficult at all.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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He needs some portion control.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:14 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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More feel good nonsense.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I wonder how many people own a Barrett .50 caliber rifle, and how many have been used in crimes?

One quick glance at gunbroker.com shows several for sale, most well over $5,000. Some are priced over $10,000.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: NJ
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NJ requires a FID, fireams id card where you release your medical records. You get to be fingerprinted as well. Have to provide references.

You need this FID to get a permit to purchase a psitol. The permit to purchase is essentially the same form as the FID.

then eventually when you go to pick up your gun the FFL federal firearms license dealer runs a NICS check based on your driver's license. Basically it checks to see if you have been convicted or charged since you were cleared to get your permit to puchase or since you received your FID.

FBI — Gun Checks/NICS

"The National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, is all about saving lives and protecting people from harm—by not letting guns and explosives fall into the wrong hands. It also ensures the timely transfer of firearms to eligible gun buyers.
Mandated by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 and launched by the FBI on November 30, 1998, NICS is used by Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) to instantly determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to buy firearms or explosives. Before ringing up the sale, cashiers call in a check to the FBI or to other designated agencies to ensure that each customer does not have a criminal record or isn’t otherwise ineligible to make a purchase. More than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade, leading to more than 700,000 denials.
NICS is located at the FBI’s Criminal Justice Information Services Division in Clarksburg, West Virginia. It provides full service to FFLs in 30 states, five U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Upon completion of the required Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 4473, FFLs contact the NICS Section via a toll-free telephone number or electronically on the Internet through the NICS E-Check System to request a background check with the descriptive information provided on the ATF Form 4473. NICS is customarily available 17 hours a day, seven days a week, including holidays (except for Christmas)."

So in NJ the FBI is involved in every legal purchase involving a FFL already. What the heck else could top that?

Never heard of a seven day waiting period.

Graves act requires mandatory 3 yr sentence for crimes committed with a firearm. Unless you are Jayson Williams and shoot your chauffer with a shotgun in a bedroom, get 3 years.

Hope CC does no go further in this direction as the point of diminishing returns has been left in the dust long ago.

Unless the upstream problems that produce downstream gun violence are addressed, any like legislation to what already exists is just a politcal knee jerk aimed to jerks at the pols knee.....and re-election in a dem controlled state. Upstream problems like expanding gangs and drug sales along with illegal gun running by the gangs are the source of gun violence.

See the 47 gangs described expanding in the New England states. Also the prisons have become centers of excellence for repeat offenders and launchin new carrers in crime.

If you purchase illegal drugs you are supporting the violence.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Highlights of his proposal, in response to the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut:

~Expanded background checks for gun purchases.

~Toughen laws by mandating that mental-health records be included in the instant background-check process at the time of a firearm purchase.

~Impose or strengthen criminal penalties for selling firearms to convicted felons, possessing a gun with the intent to unlawfully transfer, unlawfully possessing ammunition, and engaging in firearms trafficking.

~Ban purchases of the .50-caliber Barrett rifle.

~Parental consent for minors to buy violent video games.

~Make it easier for doctors and courts to commit “potentially dangerous” people for mental-health treatment.

Christie said New Jersey’s gun-control laws are already considered the second-toughest in the nation by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He cited the state’s assault- weapons ban, a seven-day waiting period prior to any firearm purchase, the third-strictest capacity laws on magazine capacity in the country and a one-gun-a-month law.

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What a LWNJ he is!
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Sounds perfectly reasonable. Maybe NJs laws will become a model for the nation when Christie gets elected president. I like him more and more as time goes by.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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Highlights of his proposal, in response to the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut:

~Expanded background checks for gun purchases.

~Toughen laws by mandating that mental-health records be included in the instant background-check process at the time of a firearm purchase.

~Impose or strengthen criminal penalties for selling firearms to convicted felons, possessing a gun with the intent to unlawfully transfer, unlawfully possessing ammunition, and engaging in firearms trafficking.

~Ban purchases of the .50-caliber Barrett rifle.

~Parental consent for minors to buy violent video games.

~Make it easier for doctors and courts to commit “potentially dangerous” people for mental-health treatment.

Christie said New Jersey’s gun-control laws are already considered the second-toughest in the nation by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He cited the state’s assault- weapons ban, a seven-day waiting period prior to any firearm purchase, the third-strictest capacity laws on magazine capacity in the country and a one-gun-a-month law.

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I don't see where he punishes the felons who try to illegally buy guns, so when do felons who are not allowed to buy guns, get punished for getting caught?
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: NC
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Out of 48,000 reported incidents of felons trying to purchase guns illegally, the DOJ prosecuted 44 cases.

All these restrictions are just aimed at making non criminal gun owners not want to own them anymore due to all the stupid restrictions.
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