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Old 04-23-2013, 02:27 AM
 
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'Greed is good' - yeah right, sounds like good ol' Milton up to his tricks again

So who actually goes along with this self serving little slogan anyway?

Greed is surely the cause of all evil?
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:43 AM
 
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Self-interest is demonized as selfish and greedy by those who try to deny that every life force on planet earth is self-serving - with no exceptions.

Humans (libertarians) practice rational self-interest, because by respecting other people's rational self interests their own rational self interests are maximized.

Mother Teresa's self-interest in working harder than most to be accepted into the Kingdom was a rational self-interest coincident with her religious beliefs.

To Liberals, those in ethical denial, she was the "greediest" of them all.

Generally, true greed is, desire for, or acquisition of, the unearned.

At least a couple of the Ten Commandments address this.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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'Greed is good' - yeah right, sounds like good ol' Milton up to his tricks again

So who actually goes along with this self serving little slogan anyway?

Greed is surely the cause of all evil?
I go along with it. Most of the time, greed is good. It's definitively not the cause of all evil. There are exceptions like patriotism and empathy for members of other nations and such, but greed can be a fine incentive in providing motivation, which leads to incentive and innovation, and of course the more garbage you buy the more everyone gets helped out.

My dad is a raging force of both greed and selflessness.
He wanted an odd looking house that looks like an alien spaceship out in the woods. Nobody in the neighborhood wanted it there. He built it anyway, over twenty years. Our neigbors hate it, and it lowers the property value of the surrounding area, but it is the most amazing house I have ever seen.

How many beautiful and innovative ideas would never have occurred if not for greed? There would probably still be plenty of scientists, but you'd lose plenty of inventors and artists.

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Old 04-23-2013, 03:54 AM
 
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So how does amassing a fortune, mansions and mounds of caviar actually help out others?

How does the golf ball sized, diamond pendant, worn by the dictator, help the common man in Africa?
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:05 AM
 
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If one chooses to prepare for the future and hoards more food, water and medical supplies than they'll ever need (unless there's an apocalypse) are they "greedy" because there are hungry people elsewhere?

Greed comes more from the poor in civilized nations than anywhere else. The desire to gain more than you deserve or earned is truly a sin.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:09 AM
 
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So how does amassing a fortune, mansions and mounds of caviar actually help out others?

How does the golf ball sized, diamond pendant, worn by the dictator, help the common man in Africa?
Are you a taker, an earner, or a deserver?
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:18 AM
 
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The quote is associated with Gordan Gekko, the character played by Michael Douglas in the movie Wall Street. Others have taken it up as a slogan, or even a mantra.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:23 AM
 
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Are you a taker, an earner, or a deserver?
I'd say I"m an earner.

But nearly everyone wishes they could earn more, yet those who do say that they 'deserve' it simply because they get it.

However they tend to dismiss those who merely want more as 'leeches' - so there is a major disconnect going on here.

Is the African dictator good for being greedy?
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I'd say I"m an earner.

But nearly everyone wishes they could earn more, yet those who do say that they 'deserve' it simply because they get it.

However they tend to dismiss those who merely want more as 'leeches' - so there is a major disconnect going on here.

Is the African dictator good for being greedy?
No.

Have Bill Gate's charities saved countless Africans' lives?
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:38 AM
 
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I'd say I"m an earner.

But nearly everyone wishes they could earn more, yet those who do say that they 'deserve' it simply because they get it.

However they tend to dismiss those who merely want more as 'leeches' - so there is a major disconnect going on here.

Is the African dictator good for being greedy?
Wish in one hand and poop in the other....see which one fills up first.

Higher earners just don't "wish" for more. They produce more for those whom they work for than the average person.

Wanting and expecting more simply because you want it is irrational.

I have no idea what "African dictators" have to do with it.
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