Illegal Immigrant becomes officer of the law (salary, Massachusetts, federal government)

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by btsilver

Was he apprehended or convicted? That is the only thing that matters. Conviction in a court of law.

If thief is never caught or convicted is he still a thief?

[andywire]

Originally Posted by btsilver

Was he apprehended or convicted? That is the only thing that matters. Conviction in a court of law.

Once again... It does not matter if he was convicted or not. When taking a psychological examination/"lie detector test", this sort of information would become available. Apparently, sneaking into our country illegally is A ok.

[MauriceP]

Originally Posted by Harrier

He has a criminal past.

He was an illegal immigrant.

But he is an american now

[MauriceP]

Originally Posted by Bettafish

Why don't you guys get it: immigrants are NOT loyal to the US. They put their home country (or religion) first.

I'm an immigrant too (not a US citizen, just live in the US) and honestly I don't think I'll ever put the US ahead of my home country.

I am deeply offended by your comment. My whole family on both sides are immigrants (legal) and now US Citizens and a lot of them served or are serving in our military forces (one of my cousins died in Iraq) putting America FIRST.

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by andywire

But when they administer the lie detector test, the kid that smoked the joint in his youth will fail the drug related question and be automatically qualified. Doesn't matter if he got caught or not. That's fine, the PD can be as particular as they would like. As far I'm concerned though, this guy's offense was just as much deserving of a DQ than the past occasional pot smoker.

You guys are all arguing whether it's a felony, a misdemeanor, blah, blah, blah. It doesn't matter if you got caught or not when you take the lie detector/psychological exam.


Maybe America doesn't invoke the patriotic spirit it once did??? I guess an unjustified war and years of reckless/destructive politics can have that effect.

What is all this lie detector nonsense?
If the officer in question was given one, why would he need to lie about his status as a citizen? He didn't apply for the job when he was an illegal immigrant. He applied after becoming a full fledged citizen of the U.S.

If taking a lie detector exam was part of his employment, he obviously passed. He got the job.

[Tenured]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

If thief is never caught or convicted is he still a thief?

The thief is a criminal whether caught or not. An undocumented individual is not a criminal for the reason of being undocumented. I hope that helps.

[MauriceP]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

If thief is never caught or convicted is he still a thief?

The person has to be found guilty in a court of law.

[Marlow]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

If thief is never caught or convicted is he still a thief?

Yes. But if he's not caught or convicted, he could still be hired on as a police officer.

[btsilver]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

If thief is never caught or convicted is he still a thief?

He'll be a thief that wasn't charged in the court of law. That's what counts. I mean they haven't found all the child porn on your computer yet so you still get to walk around not being a sex offender.

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by Marlow

Yes. But if he's not caught or convicted, he could still be hired on as a police officer.

He was caught illegal.