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Old 05-10-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Rice's comments align with the original versions.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I don't know?? Perhaps they were reporting news.
What version? Theirs or reality? There's a reason their viewers can be counted on two hands.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Rice's comments align with the original versions.
Do you have a link to all 12 versions ?
I've only seen 3 that the Weekly Standard put out.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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The WH said it was because of a spontaneous demonstration because of a video which turned out not to be true. The White House said it relied on CIA talking points.

But the CIA talking points was edited 12 times that shows that they were dramatically edited by the administration. All references to Al-quaeda and all references to CIA terror attack warnings before the attack were removed. The WH initially said only one word had been changed. Just this week Jay Carney said the changes were only stylistic.

On the 2012 campaign trail Obama said over and over - "Osama Bin Laden is dead and Al-Quaeda is on the run".
The original CIA taking points referred to it as a "Spontaneous attack" inspired by Cairo.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: texas
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When a plane crashes, does the govenment have a news confrence on day 1 to give an asseessment of the accident and cause?

Why are people so dumb to think that the President, Secretary of State, CIA, or any other governmental agency is going to give and immediate assessment of reasoning as to the attack?

Please re-read Ambassador Rice's Comments. Re-read them to they sink in. Amb Rice's comment are irrelevent to any investication because she was speaking on Sunday talk shows...not before a House or Senate committee. She was not testifying to anything.

A conservative talk radio host caught him self answering his own questions. The debate was whether the was sufficient time to send a SEAL team in to save the mission employees. He stated that the attack was not one long contiunous attack but came in two waves. Prior to his assessment he said that it was Al Qaeda's M.O. to attack, was wait for rescue troops, then re-attack.

"Plenty of time to for a repell and rescue team to arrive and help". " They could have been there waiting for the second attack".

If he knew Al Qaeda's M.O., didnt he think the Pentagon also knew Al Qaeda's M.O. of a second attack?

What if Panetta sent troops in for a rescue and they were overwhelmed by a larger second attack?...then what would everyone be saying now...today, about that decission?

Not only the security and Diplomats that died but a whole SEAL team on top of that...
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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I don't know?? Perhaps they were reporting news.
chuck todd had a discussion panel about it, but I don't think the network is covering anything live, not like they did before, when Hilary testified The Gaggle: Benghazi blame game

This shows their bias, when Todd turns it into a partisan discussion, by claiming the hearings will benefit Hilary, "if her opponents try too hard." The people on the panel have already decided that Hilary is innocent of any blame, that's why they aren't covering this hearing worth a darn. Over at MSNBC they have already closed their minds to the possibility of any negative outcome for the administration, and all this panel is for, is just to reassure themselves of that.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Why didn't anyone in the latest hearings ask about the origin of the CIA talking points? Why didn't they ask Hicks if he had any input on the CIA talking points or if the CIA had questioned him about the situation in Benghazi? Instead they asked him if Susan Rice herself had talked to him. Susan Rice's comments on 9/16 reflected the original unedited CIA talking points, which were available to the committee prior to the hearings.
Because Hicks didn't have input into what the CIA says and nobody cared what he thought as evidenced by the FACT that prior to going on the talk show circuit NOBODY asked him about the newly minted talking points.
I'm sure CIA will be questioned at some point and if that happens they're going to point fingers. Where? Well that depends who keeps tossing 'em under the bus.
It's not like they didn't WARN the administration about the likelihood of attack prior to the event itself.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Patreus is the one to ask, not Hicks. Hicks didn't work for the CIA and was not part of the revisions.
Those happened in DC at high levels.

Nuland and Patreus are the ones to ask.

Rice was just a puppet. She had no reason to talk and get input from anyone as she was given the points and coached for that Sunday go round on TV.
Asking Hicks if had been contacted by the CIA would be more valid then asking him if he had been contacted by Susan Rice, which did happen at the hearings. I don't believe their was a single question on the CIA's role in developing the talking points, just focus on Susan Rice.

Rice's comments reflected the original unedited talking points.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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Since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants, including the June attack against the British Ambassador’s convoy. We cannot rule out the individuals has previously surveilled the U.S. facilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks.

There are 5 points from the hearings.

THERE WAS A STAND DOWN ORDER
Who, with the appropriate authority, actually gave the stand down order? And why?

STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL FINGERED TERROR GROUP DAY AFTER ATTACK
Why did the Obama administration initially blame the terrorist attack on a YouTube video when there was no apparent evidence to support that theory?

WHO IS LT. COL. GIBSON?
On the night of the Benghazi attack, Gibson was “furious” when a stand down order was given, preventing Special Forces from intervening in Libya. Hicks said Gibson wanted to bring the Americans trapped in Benghazi home, but was unable to act. Does Gibson know who personally issued the stand down order? Does he know how far up the chain of command the order originated?

BENGHAZI WITNESS TOLD NOT TO SPEAK WITH CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATOR ALONE
Hicks on Wednesday also revealed that he was told by Obama administration officials not to talk with Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) unsupervised.

WHISTLEBLOWER ‘EFFECTIVELY DEMOTED’ AFTER QUESTIONING BENGHAZI TALKING POINTS
Hicks told members of Congress that he has been “effectively demoted” from his position as deputy chief of mission shortly after he questioned United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice’s explanation that the Benghazi attack was the result of a spontaneous protest sparked by a YouTube video.
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