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Old 05-05-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by trlhiker View Post
And how has America changed under Obama compared to other Presidents?
1. $ 8 trillion in additional debt
2. the first time national debt has exceeded GDP
3. record annual deficits
4. record number of people on foodstamps
5. record low home ownership
6. declines in personal income
7. declines in net wealth
8. use of drones on US citizens
9. Federal government killing US citizens without due process
10. expansion of the Patriot Act
11. Lack of transparency not seen since Nixon
12. Communists in the Obama administration
13. A president of dubious national heritage
14. A president who will not release college transcripts
15. Record purchases of ammunition by Homeland Security
16. A president refusing to enforce immigration law
17. Fast and Furious
18. Reznik
19. Black Panthers
20. Gulf Oil Spill
21. War on coal
22. Failure to allow domestic oil exploration on federal lands
23. Tax cheats in the administration
24. Obamacare
25. record increases in US taxes



Okay- that is the short list. Now............................did you vote for this guy?

 
Old 05-05-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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You mean some media other than FOX is now taking notice? WOW but CBS hasn't been as much of a lapdog than the other ones.

I hope the media starts to do their job before the Obama people take them over totally and then it will be too late to report the true stories.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 07:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fitzpatriot View Post
Do you think Obama should have ordered the American military to attempt to rescue the Ambassador and others at the time of the attack?
No man left behind.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Chimuelojones View Post
Do you know where the closest fighting force was in relation to the mission? Have you not heard that the attack on the mission was essential over before anyone would be able to get there?

It's called logistics. Imagine a fire bell going off in a Firehouse, the firefighters scramble to get to their gear and trucks only to find the fire is 100 miles away. the house is fully in gulfed with flames...What chance does that fire team have to get to the fire in time to put out the fire?

This was not a war zone, we are not at war with Lybia, We do not have military forces there. This is a Diplomatic mission not a military base.
And it was because of the video right?
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
20,868 posts, read 23,554,229 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
1. $ 8 trillion in additional debt
2. the first time national debt has exceeded GDP
3. record annual deficits
4. record number of people on foodstamps
5. record low home ownership
6. declines in personal income
7. declines in net wealth
8. use of drones on US citizens
9. Federal government killing US citizens without due process
10. expansion of the Patriot Act
11. Lack of transparency not seen since Nixon
12. Communists in the Obama administration
13. A president of dubious national heritage
14. A president who will not release college transcripts
15. Record purchases of ammunition by Homeland Security
16. A president refusing to enforce immigration law
17. Fast and Furious
18. Reznik
19. Black Panthers
20. Gulf Oil Spill
21. War on coal
22. Failure to allow domestic oil exploration on federal lands
23. Tax cheats in the administration
24. Obamacare
25. record increases in US taxes




Okay- that is the short list. Now............................did you vote for this guy?
Nothing but pundit talking points on that list, how about posting one in which you actually think for yourself for a change or is that too much to ask?
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
1. $ 8 trillion in additional debt
2. the first time national debt has exceeded GDP
3. record annual deficits
4. record number of people on foodstamps
5. record low home ownership
6. declines in personal income
7. declines in net wealth
8. use of drones on US citizens
9. Federal government killing US citizens without due process
10. expansion of the Patriot Act
11. Lack of transparency not seen since Nixon
12. Communists in the Obama administration
13. A president of dubious national heritage
14. A president who will not release college transcripts
15. Record purchases of ammunition by Homeland Security
16. A president refusing to enforce immigration law
17. Fast and Furious
18. Reznik
19. Black Panthers
20. Gulf Oil Spill
21. War on coal
22. Failure to allow domestic oil exploration on federal lands
23. Tax cheats in the administration
24. Obamacare
25. record increases in US taxes
Quote:
Originally Posted by trlhiker View Post
Nothing but pundit talking points on that list, how about posting one in which you actually think for yourself for a change or is that too much to ask?
So tell us which ones you dispute, don't make a blanket post. Back it up.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimuelojones View Post
Do you know where the closest fighting force was in relation to the mission? Have you not heard that the attack on the mission was essential over before anyone would be able to get there?

It's called logistics. Imagine a fire bell going off in a Firehouse, the firefighters scramble to get to their gear and trucks only to find the fire is 100 miles away. the house is fully in gulfed with flames...What chance does that fire team have to get to the fire in time to put out the fire?

This was not a war zone, we are not at war with Lybia, We do not have military forces there. This is a Diplomatic mission not a military base.
There were Marines on their way to help but they got ambushed and 2 Marines got killed.
Don't you remember that ?
Also the attack went on for hours.


U.S. troops ambushed en route to rescue besieged diplomats in Benghazi | World | News | National Post
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The original article indicated they wanted help from Aviano,

-how long would it take to get to the embassy,
-what type of personnel were available and how many
-what would be their mode of transportation
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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I don't think that the ambassador was shot or anything like that.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Lesson: Don't depend on government for help or you will die.
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