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I don't believe that is entirely correct. If you check out the US National Debt Clock, on the right hand side they do have a set of interesting numbers. There's about 146 million people working (118 million are full time). At the very bottom right it says that 156 million are receiving some form of benefit, but this includes Social Security, Medicare, and all types of welfare. There are 45 million Food Stamp recipients, and 11 million disabled, and 33 million Medicaid recipients.
What is more concerning is that there's only 116 million tax payers. That means (I think) that's there's an awful lot of people who work part-time and full-time who don't make enough to owe taxes.
Exactly, Hmmm so why is that? Could it be that employers(not ma and pop business) are not paying a livable wage? But that doesn't make any since. If 400 people own half the countries wealth surely they can afford to pay employees a few extra bucks?
You "heard" this...well gee I heard there are UFO's flying over New Mexico. Doesn't mean it is true.
And any claim about "government benefits" usually includes elderly and disabled persons. And elderly folks on Soc Security and Medicare paid into the system already. So keep the right wing propaganda about a society of leeches in perspective.
Are you not capable of being polite to someone you don't agree with?
I don't believe that is entirely correct. If you check out the US National Debt Clock, on the right hand side they do have a set of interesting numbers. There's about 146 million people working (118 million are full time). At the very bottom right it says that 156 million are receiving some form of benefit, but this includes Social Security, Medicare, and all types of welfare. There are 45 million Food Stamp recipients, and 11 million disabled, and 33 million Medicaid recipients.
What is more concerning is that there's only 116 million tax payers. That means (I think) that's there's an awful lot of people who work part-time and full-time who don't make enough to owe taxes.
I stand corrected. Thank you for disagreeing in a polite tone- alot of people on here cannot do so.
So someone who smokes a joint shouldn't get welfare? What next? If they stomp on the flag or if they commit a crime involving violence they don't get it?
It should always be based on need and not what someone thinks is moral. All this is, is reacting to a symptom. If the economy was healthy this wouldn't be an issue
I get surprise and mandatory drug tested. If I test positive I lose my job. Why not people on welfare? If they test positive they lose their welfare. So if the tax payer has to pass a drug test why not welfare slugs?
I don't want to pay you to be a stoned useless violent welfare slug.
So someone who smokes a joint shouldn't get welfare?
If the economy was healthy this wouldn't be an issue
That person better be growing their own
Some folks go on welfare, regardless of the economy. Since most are single women with
children, they simply want the luxury of being a stay at home mom. That is a luxury working women
don't have. Who ever said, just because you have a kid, you are allowed to stay home anyway.
Get off the couch and get a ****ing job.
Some folks go on welfare, regardless of the economy. Since most are single women with
children, they simply want the luxury of being a stay at home mom. That is a luxury working women
don't have. Who ever said, just because you have a kid, you are allowed to stay home anyway.
Get off the couch and get a ****ing job.
pollyrobin, I wonder how welfare slugs would feel if an ER nurses and doctors went outside and smoked a joint and got stoned then one of them came into the ER in a life threatening situation.
I get surprise and mandatory drug tested. If I test positive I lose my job. Why not people on welfare? If they test positive they lose their welfare. So if the tax payer has to pass a drug test why not welfare slugs?
I don't want to pay you to be a stoned useless violent welfare slug.
Get off the couch and get a ****ing job.
Because often the welfare is not for them. Its for their childrens benefit. If you wanted to argue "if you fail a drug test at work or anywhere you lose your children" that would be better then saying "If you fail this test your children get to face starvation and homelessness". Right now we're choosing as a society to leave children with parents who fail drug tests.
Also stoned people are rarely violent people.
And then there is the cost of the testing. We need a darpa project for low cost easy drug testing.
Fun fact, a local police union fought having officers randomly drug tested a few years back. I kept thinking.....people with guns shouldn't be tested....but I get tested and I just write code. WTH?
pollyrobin, I wonder how welfare slugs would feel if an ER nurses and doctors went outside and smoked a joint and got stoned then one of them came into the ER in a life threatening situation.
What you think ER nurses are paragons of virtue? Bwahahahha.
I do also love the false comparison of someone holding someones life in their hands.....to someone on welfare. They're totally comparable.
Its for their childrens benefit. If you wanted to argue "if you fail a drug test at work or anywhere you lose your children" that would be better then saying "If you fail this test your children get to face starvation and homelessness". Right now we're choosing as a society to leave children with parents who fail drug tests.
Also stoned people are rarely violent people.
That is debatable. Stoned doesn't always mean pot. Someone on crack can get quite violent.
We have a whole sub culture of meth heads because its cheap and they are wound tighter than a 2$ clock
BTW, everything is for the children Ad nauseam. It's not like these folks are really passing on
words of wisdom or examples of role models...
I don't agree with, you fail a drug test, you loose your children, because the foster child/DHHS program is probably more corrupt than the parents. It's one big vicious cycle of yuck
Instead of facing homelessness or starvation, they should reach out for help from private
charitable organizations, or learn to be self reliant. I know, a new old concept...
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