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When people don't have to earn incomes, they are less likely to earn incomes or, at least, to earn incomes in legal and visible ways that could threaten their government benefits.
The more people who are in a non-income-earning mode, the greater the disparities with the incomes of those of us who have to work for a living, and who have to earn more to offset high tax rates.
Yet liberals often act as if welfare is an injustice to those who don't work, rather than an injustice to those who do work, and whose taxes support those who don't.
What does the amount of the bill going to foodstamps got to do with the hypocrites you and others are spewing. In 2013 47,636,000 were on foodstamps. Mostly children and elderly. That what the foodstamps budget does. Not fund billions for a few people who own business. The other part of the farm bill has nothing to do with foodstamps. Once again you misdirect.
The farm bill was originally a cross-aisle deal with the democrats giving rural Republicans something they want in return for something they want with other Republicans putting up with it because it wasn't worth the internal fight and because no-one wants to see citizens starving.
As the amount of money given has risen above basic needs, the total bill has skyrocketed, number of users has exploded, and relative amount of money going to rural Republican constituencies dropped what has happened is that the Republican party as a whole has decided the deal isn't worth it anymore even if farming interests still want it.
It matters because it represents a breakdown of the compromise that previously allowed the program to survive periods of Republican political strength unscathed. When Obama used food stamps as a way of delivering stimulus money by pumping tremendously more cash into it, he imperiled the program in the long term due to the inevitable Republican reaction which is now occurring to its wild growth since.
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If increasing your income by $10,000 would cause you to lose $15,000 in government benefits, would you do it? The political left's welfare state makes poverty more comfortable, while penalizing attempts to rise out of poverty.
The left promotes thievery from hard working Americans.
When you add in loss-of-benefits to taxes to get an effective tax rate on income the poor often face sky high rates, sometimes even over 100% -- the problem is you need long-term thinking and hope that you can make enough to get out of the high-marginal-rate poverty trap and sufficiently into the middle class that the marginal rates start coming back down.
When people don't have to earn incomes, they are less likely to earn incomes or, at least, to earn incomes in legal and visible ways that could threaten their government benefits.
The more people who are in a non-income-earning mode, the greater the disparities with the incomes of those of us who have to work for a living, and who have to earn more to offset high tax rates.
Yet liberals often act as if welfare is an injustice to those who don't work, rather than an injustice to those who do work, and whose taxes support those who don't.
Well the bigger factor is there not being enough middle class and well paying jobs along with reduced benefits in the private sector. Capitalism has sped globalization and automation while the governments of developed countries have to pick up the slack that the private sector use to provide.
People will always be people and abuse a system but this more about decades worth of a rapidly changing global labor force.
and Walmart is the employer with the most people receiving assistance...
that means because of their low wages the owners pocket billions the tax payer has to pick up the slack for....
Henry Ford upped his wages to reduce costs of training and to increase buyers in his products, today's equivalent wage is $13.22 based on their 9 hour work day.
First, it's not taking from the poor. It's taking from hard working Americans.
Both forms are thievery and you are trying to convince us it's right. No form of stealing is right.
geeze
No your trying to convince us that welfare for the rich is ok and welfare for the poor isn't. I say this because you spend 24/7 on some or another rant about poor welfare etc. It shows in the lack of balance and lack of threads on corporate welfare. Please quit telling us your all for all forms of welfare cuts and show us. Push the republicans to step forward and present a plan to cut corporate welfare(not add to it as they did this year). Because there has been cuts on poor welfare and pushing people back to work. Intell i see balanced cutts i will never believe you.
First, it's not taking from the poor. It's taking from hard working Americans.
Both forms are thievery and you are trying to convince us it's right. No form of stealing is right.
geeze
Uhmmm poor people are hardworking taxpaying citizens. Shoot the poor are the ones getting shotup in iraq and other major wars representing and defending our country, not the upper middle class or coward rich.
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When people don't have to earn incomes, they are less likely to earn incomes or, at least, to earn incomes in legal and visible ways that could threaten their government benefits.
The more people who are in a non-income-earning mode, the greater the disparities with the incomes of those of us who have to work for a living, and who have to earn more to offset high tax rates.
Yet liberals often act as if welfare is an injustice to those who don't work, rather than an injustice to those who do work, and whose taxes support those who don't.
How does your plan work? Show us your genius on how to solve the issue of getting everyone to work fulltime? Last i checked 20+ million people in this country was unemployed. And those employed, how many are just PT? Now i need to remind you that this is a time in our country where taxes are lower then in the past. Corporate america has made record profits the last few years and corporate welfare is at an all time high.
and Walmart is the employer with the most people receiving assistance...
that means because of their low wages the owners pocket billions the tax payer has to pick up the slack for....
Henry Ford upped his wages to reduce costs of training and to increase buyers in his products, today's equivalent wage is $13.22 based on their 9 hour work day.
Exactly, Mahalo for your post. Wheres the rage! These guys are stealing your money out of your pockets to put billions in there own. I would say thats far worse then poor, lazy dude buying a lotto ticket and collecting 200mth on foodstamps.
Exactly, Mahalo for your post. Wheres the rage! These guys are stealing your money out of your pockets to put billions in there own. I would say thats far worse then poor, lazy dude buying a lotto ticket and collecting 200mth on foodstamps.
Both are wrong. Both are thievery. Stop trying to justify one with the other.
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