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Catch up with what? Blacks are disproportionately OVER-represented on the SNAP rolls compared to their percentage of the population. How do you NOT understand that?
And your grad degree is in Public Policy? Good Grief! No wonder government is so grotesquely incompetent.
irrelevant. when you look at pure numbers, whites are the majority on welfare and taking government benefits. correlation to race when were talking total numbers is irrelevant. when you talk about welfare reform, your talking about total numbers and not percentages. percentages are what conservative whites use to stereotype blacks.
irrelevant. when you look at pure numbers, whites are the majority on welfare and taking government benefits. correlation to race when were talking total numbers is irrelevant. when you talk about welfare reform, your talking about total numbers and not percentages. percentages are what conservative whites use to stereotype blacks.
Percentages are what intelligent people use. Those that look at the numbers are reserved for the race card players.
Percentages are what intelligent people use. Those that look at the numbers are reserved for the race card players.
just like the murder number you guys use to make it appear as if half of all blacks committed a murder.
you guys love that 50 percent number. too bad you never mention there were only 14,000 murders and that there are 35 million blacks in the us, which means 0.0002 percent of blacks killed someone in 2013.
the white conservative male will trot out that 50 percent number intentionally distorting black crime to attempt to smear the black population. you'll never see them mention that 0.0002 number.
the white conservative male always deflects from whites onto blacks, and always attempts to smear blacks.
It's only irrelevant if you want to ignore one group's over-dependency on public assistance. And that's part of the problem. Ignore Blacks' over-dependence on SNAP, and you can comfortably continue to support the status quo of racially-based oppression.
just like the murder number you guys use to make it appear as if half of all blacks committed a murder.
you guys love that 50 percent number. too bad you never mention there were only 14,000 murders and that there are 35 million blacks in the us, which means 0.0002 percent of blacks killed someone in 2013.
the white conservative male will trot out that 50 percent number intentionally distorting black crime to attempt to smear the black population. you'll never see them mention that 0.0002 number.
the white conservative male always deflects from whites onto blacks, and always attempts to smear blacks.
keep trying to make a boogeyman like usual.
Can you back up your post or is this just another strawman? I've never seen anyone claim half of blacks commit murder. I have seen people claim that half of murders are committed by blacks, but that comes from the FBI.
just like the murder number you guys use to make it appear as if half of all blacks committed a murder.
you guys love that 50 percent number. too bad you never mention there were only 14,000 murders and that there are 35 million blacks in the us, which means 0.0002 percent of blacks killed someone in 2013.
the white conservative male will trot out that 50 percent number intentionally distorting black crime to attempt to smear the black population. you'll never see them mention that 0.0002 number.
the white conservative male always deflects from whites onto blacks, and always attempts to smear blacks.
keep trying to make a boogeyman like usual.
Much like Liberals who trot out the thoroughly debunked "women earn 77 cents for every dollar a man earns" to make their point, completely ignoring every factor that contributes to those figures.
Or how they claim with a straight face that "1 in 5 women in college are raped," when they might consider anything from a regretful, drunken one-night stand to leering at a woman to be sexual assault. The actual number of women who are legitimately raped in college is .061% (sourced from the DOJ); way less than Liberals including our President and Vice President are telling people.
Its amusing to see people who regurgitate "reality has a Liberal bias", while using completely false or heavily manipulated statistics to "prove their point." I guess twisting data to suit your agenda is Liberal reality.
Much like Liberals who trot out the thoroughly debunked "women earn 77 cents for every dollar a man earns" to make their point, completely ignoring every factor that contributes to those figures.
Or how they claim with a straight face that "1 in 5 women in college are raped," when they might consider anything from a regretful, drunken one-night stand to leering at a woman to be sexual assault. The actual number of women who are legitimately raped in college is .061% (sourced from the DOJ); way less than Liberals including our President and Vice President are telling people.
Its amusing to see people who regurgitate "reality has a Liberal bias", while using completely false or heavily manipulated statistics to "prove their point." I guess twisting data to suit your agenda is Liberal reality.
All true. When cold hard facts don't fit the agenda they twist the truth to cause outrage.
just like the murder number you guys use to make it appear as if half of all blacks committed a murder.
you guys love that 50 percent number. too bad you never mention there were only 14,000 murders and that there are 35 million blacks in the us, which means 0.0002 percent of blacks killed someone in 2013.
the white conservative male will trot out that 50 percent number intentionally distorting black crime to attempt to smear the black population. you'll never see them mention that 0.0002 number.
the white conservative male always deflects from whites onto blacks, and always attempts to smear blacks.
keep trying to make a boogeyman like usual.
Should we do the "Hypocrisy test" on this guy too?
So because it is an insignificantly small percent of the total population we shouldn't bring it up.. now lets talk about gun bans/AWB's/and carry permitting.
The point of the percentage numbers is that it allows for a per-capita comparison to be made, be it murder or welfare or voting. When you have a low percentage of the population committing more crime or using more welfare IT DOESN'T MATTER. The percentages don't lie, when your rates are 2:1/3:1/4:1 vs 0.5:1 etc there is no denying a completely different outcome for the different groups. Using static numbers is unworkable when you are using dissimilar population sizes.
OK, the source for the above information (FIRST POST) which came from a website on "Statistics." This website's info claims to have gathered its sources from the Federal Government:
Food Stamp Statistics
Food Stamp Statistics
Statistic Verification
Source: Department of Agriculture - Food and Nutrition Service
Research Date: January 13th, 2015
The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), formerly known as the Food Stamp program, provides food-purchasing assistance for low- and no-income people living in the U.S. It is a federal aid program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, under the Food and Nutrition Service (FNS), though benefits are distributed by each U.S. state's Division of Social Services or Children and Family Services.
Meanwhile when one goes DIRECTLY to the Department of Agriculture's website, the latest data to be reviewed and available is from 2013. HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET DATA no one else can?
FINALLY, from the "US Department of Agriculture's website "itself" (the same source the statistics website used) claims it got its data but it is not the same, and somehow the "government" and other intelligent people got it wrong? Well yeah if you want to change the narrative in this country to suit a LIE.
Anyone who would fall for this is utterly ridiculous. And I do, hold a Graduate Degree in Public Policy, but that's neither here nor there.
How do you have a graduate degree and not know how to work statistics among dissimilar population sizes? And how do you not know that using static numbers in a comparison of the same dissimilar populations are erroneous and downright academically criminal.
For example:
Population of 1,000,000,100.
Blue eyed 100, 100 are on drugs.
Brown eyed 1,000,000,000, 101 are on drugs.
Your contention is that drugs are worse for brown eyed people, despite having a 100% problem with blue eyed people. In the same way welfare being significantly higher AS A PERCENTAGE in the black population compared to the white population is just a fact, to try to twist it with raw numbers becomes silly to myself and the other posters who have a problem with your supposition.
Catch up with what? Blacks are disproportionately OVER-represented on the SNAP rolls compared to their percentage of the population. How do you NOT understand that?
And your grad degree is in Public Policy? Good Grief! No wonder government is so grotesquely incompetent.
I get what you're saying. To explain it to others, if blacks were 12% of the population they should be 12% of those on welfare. In reality the percentage is higher than 12% (or whatever the percentage is). Another thing not mentioned is unlike whites, they are more likely to have children out of wedlock. While not all of these children are born on welfare many are. This is proven by the stats out there where a high percentage of illegitimate babies are born on welfare. This is why many of us have issues with welfare, so many situations are the problem of illegitimacy. I have seen stats of medicaid births in Illinois and it's over half (54% I believe)and most of these births are to Hispanics (many illegals) and blacks. This isn't racist, it's a fact. One could argue that it's because whites have more advantages but it's more than that.
There are stats done on Illinois where it states most Hispanics on welfare don't speak English and blacks are the largest majority. I can't link it but one can see by Googling welfare use Illinois percentage of minorities. I downloaded the second PDF.
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Can you back up your post or is this just another strawman? I've never seen anyone claim half of blacks commit murder. I have seen people claim that half of murders are committed by blacks, but that comes from the FBI.
