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And Obama of course said he would not raise taxes on anyone that makes less than 250 thousand.. another tax hike for everyone. Obama knows how to lie and manipulate. Obama wants more money from us and he will think up ways to get it to pay for his big government hand outs and programs .. too many illegals here now getting free stuff and Obama has to get it from somewhere.. his handouts are BIG MAGNETS for the illegals..
And Obama of course said he would not raise taxes on anyone that makes less than 250 thousand.. another tax hike for everyone. Obama knows how to lie and manipulate. Obama wants more money from us and he will think up ways to get it to pay for his big government hand outs and programs .. too many illegals here now getting free stuff and Obama has to get it from somewhere.. his handouts are BIG MAGNETS for the illegals..
In case you forgot, the R's have the House and the Senate doesn't have enough democratic votes to beat a R filibuster. Obama doesn't have anything to do with this--if the bill gets through Congress it will be because the Republicans back it. If they do it with a veto proof majority, then the President can't do anything to stop it.
I'm always baffled when some of you start pointing blame without understanding that we have more than the executive branch of government in this country....
In case you forgot, the R's have the House and the Senate doesn't have enough democratic votes to beat a R filibuster. Obama doesn't have anything to do with this--if the bill gets through Congress it will be because the Republicans back it. If they do it with a veto proof majority, then the President can't do anything to stop it.
I'm always baffled when some of you start pointing blame without understanding that we have more than the executive branch of government in this country....
Thats not exactly how it works. You filibuster bills you dont want to come to a vote, so not having enough votes to filibuster still wouldnt megate the fact that it takes the Senate to approve, and the President to sign off on it.
If the President signs off on it, its indeed another broken promise, and I'm always baffled by those who refuse to acknowledge things as they are, and feel the need to run around blaming Republicans alone.
$.15 more? Oh hell, I wish it was only $.15 more, how about the tens of thousands it will cost and how many hours to comply with the ten thousand taxing jurisdiction in the nation?
I know one software package of mine will cost me at least $3K to upgrade, and thats on top of the thousands it will cost to import and manage tax regions.
At first I thought it would be a flat tax rate, i.e. 6% everywhere, but its not even close.. People like me will simply spend the money to modernize while small businesses wont be able to compete.
Thats not exactly how it works. You filibuster bills you dont want to come to a vote, so not having enough votes to filibuster still wouldnt megate the fact that it takes the Senate to approve, and the President to sign off on it.
If the President signs off on it, its indeed another broken promise, and I'm always baffled by those who refuse to acknowledge things as they are, and feel the need to run around blaming Republicans alone.
Oh really? I take it you flunked Jr. High government class?
Do you mean not enough votes for CLOTURE, which is when you end a filibuster? Cloture takes a super majority (60 votes). The Democrats only have 51 plus 2 independents who vote with them. They just voted for CLOTURE 63 to 30, which means that TEN republicans are voting with the Democrats to allow the bill to come up for a vote, which will happen next week. Even R's are admitting the bill will pass in the Senate.
THEN the bill, or a similar one, will go to the HOUSE. If the House passes the same exact bill that the Senate passes, THEN it goes to the president. If the House passes a different version, then the bill goes to CONFERENCE COMMITTEE where a group of Senators and Reps will hammer out a compromise bill. Then they all vote again, and ONLY then does it go to the president.
All the president does is sign or veto bills--GET IT? He doesn't write them, and he doesn't pass them. That's the job of the Senate and the House
If the president VETOES the bill, it will take 75% of both bodies to override it.
uh hum, so lets hit the middle class again. So after Obama promised that taxes would not go up on the middle class, taxes went up for millions of Americans, which Republicans predicted throughout the campaign would happen, it was fun to watch the the left bounce off walls. So lets hit them again.
“Nancy Thongkham” was much more furious. “F***ing Obama! F*** you! This taking out more taxes s*** better f***ing help me out!!”
“_Alex, “Obama I did not vote for you so you can take away alot of money from my checks.”
Christian Dixon seemed crestfallen. “I’m starting to regret voting for Obama.”
Dave, “Obama is the biggest f***ing liar in the world. Why the f*** did I vote for him”?
Yea, different, but a tax is a tax with the same result.
Oh really? I take it you flunked Jr. High government class?
Do you mean not enough votes for CLOTURE, which is when you end a filibuster? Cloture takes a super majority (60 votes). The Democrats only have 51 plus 2 independents who vote with them. They just voted for CLOTURE 63 to 30, which means that TEN republicans are voting with the Democrats to allow the bill to come up for a vote, which will happen next week. Even R's are admitting the bill will pass in the Senate.
THEN the bill, or a similar one, will go to the HOUSE. If the House passes the same exact bill that the Senate passes, THEN it goes to the president. If the House passes a different version, then the bill goes to CONFERENCE COMMITTEE where a group of Senators and Reps will hammer out a compromise bill. Then they all vote again, and ONLY then does it go to the president.
All the president does is sign or veto bills--GET IT? He doesn't write them, and he doesn't pass them. That's the job of the Senate and the House
If the president VETOES the bill, it will take 75% of both bodies to override it.
you mean did I fail government class because I said the President would need to sign teh bill, and you responded with the President would have to sign the bill?
Do you feel as dumb as that just sounded?
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I take it you flunked Jr. High government class? 
