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Old 04-27-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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i'm not suggesting sending anyone back to anywhere.. i DON'T APPROVE OF KILLING SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE THEY LIVE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOUR ANCESTERS LIVED "ONCE UPON A TIME". i support that fact that the people of the US live where they do now and thats that BUT you can't support THAT and support ISRAEL.. i like the USA, one cannot like USA and Israel at the same time.. its like being black, and a KKK member.
By your logic, Indians once occupied the land but Americans don't owe it to them to give it back. OK, fine. By the same logic, Arabs once occupied the land but the Israelis don't owe it to them to give it back.

Does that work for you?
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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.... I DON'T APPROVE ... BECAUSE THEY LIVE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOUR ANCESTERS LIVED "ONCE UPON A TIME"....
Why don't you research Mizrahi and see where they come from and still are. Why don't you research that these people were the majority residents before their European cousins arrived in the lands.

You don't approve a tribe known as "people of the book" killing Arabs yet you do approve Sunni's killing Shiite's and visversa who have killed 100,000s of their fellow Muslims because of a different interpretation of the Quran. Maybe you should research why they are known as "People of the Book".
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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By your logic, Indians once occupied the land but Americans don't owe it to them to give it back. OK, fine. By the same logic, Arabs once occupied the land but the Israelis don't owe it to them to give it back.

Does that work for you?
what happened in the US was the europeans occupied the land by force and coercion against the native americans, despite there being no threat .

the arabs got palestinian land back from the roman catholic crusades that massacred the muslims and jews that lived there before. the difference being the muslims and jews lived side by side for 400 years before they were murdered by the roman catholic crusades, despite there being no provocation. theres a difference between being provoked and NOT being provoked. they came, killed, and occupied despite any threat.

when germany invaded poland, they came, killed, and occupied despite there being no threat from poland. that ended up in a war.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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And we're calling them American Indians why?....Spare me the faux outrage.

You have completely and hilariously missed the point of my post.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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English is my first language for your information. i'm just not a grammar nazi is all

Son, you don't even qualify as a grammar dwarf.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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Why don't you research Mizrahi and see where they come from and still are. Why don't you research that these people were the majority residents before their European cousins arrived in the lands.

You don't approve a tribe known as "people of the book" killing Arabs yet you do approve Sunni's killing Shiite's and visversa who have killed 100,000s of their fellow Muslims because of a different interpretation of the Quran. Maybe you should research why they are known as "People of the Book".
i have no opinions of the sunni's that kill shi'ites or vice versa.. they seem to want to adopt a collectivist way of life. eg like in india they have tribes that hate other tribes and etc etc.. well, i guess thats how it is in third world countries. when they are allowed to develop to UAE or other gulf country standards, they'll look back and think what we thought of our ancestors.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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Son, you don't even qualify as a grammar dwarf.
cool story bro. tell it again.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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What happened to the native Americans was that a technologically and organizationally superior culture displaced one that wa inferior in those respects. This is the way history works. What happen in Israel is not dissimilar. And, in point of fact, it was the Palestinians who picked the fight, so they have to live with the consequences.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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cool story bro. tell it again.
ah-ite.

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They already did that. Didn't work out all that well. They do better these days with their casinos. But no one is arguing they didn't get a raw deal.

So, looks like English isn't your first language and your grasp of history is pretty slack, too.

Like I've already said, you're a boy who needs a lotta schoolin' here.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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ah-ite.



haha, i'll give you that one.. reputation
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