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View Poll Results: Should Islamic immigration to the United States be stopped or banned?
Yes, ban all Islamic immigration 172 49.14%
Yeah, but only stop it temporarily 17 4.86%
No 161 46.00%
Voters: 350. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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People opposing Muslims in America should first see whether they are dealing with business corporations which are funded by Muslim wealth. Whether it is Fox News or Disney or Citi Bank, all have big investments by Muslims.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: USA (dying to live in Canada)
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People opposing Muslims in America should first see whether they are dealing with business corporations which are funded by Muslim wealth. Whether it is Fox News or Disney or Citi Bank, all have big investments by Muslims.
Al-Waleed bin Talal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Or they should look at Muslim radicals in Dearborn, Michigan, in Europe and the Middle East?
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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Or they should look at Muslim radicals in Dearborn, Michigan, in Europe and the Middle East?
Look everywhere-you cannot cherrypick to suit your agenda. Radicals and criminals are in every religion. Look what happened here-

Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here we have an example of White American Christian guy attacking and killing innocent people of Sikh Religion in Wisconsin.

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Old 07-29-2013, 09:33 PM
 
Location: USA (dying to live in Canada)
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Radicals and criminals are in every religion. Look what happened here-

Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here we have an example of White American Christian guy attacking and killing innocent people of Sikh Religion in Wisconsin.
He was not Christian. Some people do evil things and then wants to call themselves for "Christian" to give the religion a bad name.

There may be radicals in every religion and non-religion, but not as much as Islam. Open your eyes, seriously. There have been hundreds of radical Islamic acts by only one radical Islamic group since 9/11.

Which Christian nation kills people who are not Christians? Which Christian nation behead those who leave their faith? Which Christian nation behead homosexuals? Which Christian nation imposes Sharia law?
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Well let's backtrack a second. What did you mean by "change the First Amendment to exclude dogmatic religions" exactly?

The statement was straightforward and self-explanatory.

What you have in common is the intolerance of beliefs you personally do not understand or agree with.

Yeah, but do they like pretzels? I mean, I like pretzels, so if the muslims also liked pretzels then that would be two things we have in common. Then I would really be a self-hater.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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He was not Christian. Some people do evil things and then wants to call themselves for "Christian" to give the religion a bad name.

There may be radicals in every religion and non-religion, but not as much as Islam. Open your eyes, seriously. There have been hundreds of radical Islamic acts by only one radical Islamic group since 9/11.

Which Christian nation kills people who are not Christians? Which Christian nation behead those who leave their faith? Which Christian nation behead homosexuals? Which Christian nation imposes Sharia law?
Hopefully your not holding your breathe for an honest debate on this one..........
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: TX
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What we really need to do is change the First Amendment to exclude dogmatic religions.
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So Christianity and Judaism would be out too? Because they are also dogmatic (based on dogma).
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They would lose their protection but not necessarily be "out".
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Well let's backtrack a second. What did you mean by "change the First Amendment to exclude dogmatic religions" exactly?
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The statement was straightforward and self-explanatory.
Nope, it wasn't. That's why I asked for clarification. You see, the First Amendment says a lot of different things. I want to know exactly what changes you would make and, as a bonus, I would like to know how you can justify nitpicking which religions should be protected by the U.S. Constitution after all this time of actual and true religious freedom.

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What you have in common is the intolerance of beliefs you personally do not understand or agree with.
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Yeah, but do they like pretzels? I mean, I like pretzels, so if the muslims also liked pretzels then that would be two things we have in common. Then I would really be a self-hater.
...Well at least you didn't deny that you are as intolerant of different views as the Muslim extremists your kind is so worried about...
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Hopefully your not holding your breathe for an honest debate on this one..........
Pot meet kettle.
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:42 AM
 
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Do those who support Islamic immigration on this thread truly believe that Muslims just drop their culture upon arriving on these shores? They don't!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ol_prohibition

Sharia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_ri...y_or_territory

Why would they drop their dogmatic and un-democratic mindsets just because they immigrate to a Western country?

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84% of Pakistani's think that Sharia law should be the law of the land. But a majority of Pakistani's at least believe that the 2% of their country that isn't Muslim should be allowed to practice their faith freely. Oh, but don't convert to another faith if you don't like Islam. They fully support your murder for doing that!

A majority of Iraq's think that women who engage in pre-marital sex should be PUT TO DEATH! They DO NOT CHANGE their opinions on these issues when they arrive on our shores. They just don't have the demographic weight to enforce their viewpoints. If they ever did get a big enough demographic hold you can bet that there will be women getting stoned to death on the street.
The people immigrating from Pakistan or Iraq or more likely to be of the 16% that don't think that Sharia law should be the law of the land. And Sharia law isn't a written in stone law code. The Islam faith is like the Christian faith, it has different sects that interpret their religious teachings differently, just like Christians have Catholics who interpret religious teachings differently from Baptists who interpret religious teachings differently from Presbyterians. And within the sects, there are numerous churches who interpret things differently. There are Presbyterians who believe dancing is a sin, card-playing is a sin, and there are Presbyterians who believe the opposite. Islam is no different. And how Sharia law is interpreted depends on which sect you belong to, which mosque you attend.

Given that, and the extremely small demographic that Muslims comprise in the United States, your fears of women getting stoned to death on the street would seem irrational.
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Muslims should be quietly curbed from immigrating to North America and Europe. The secularists and those of our traditional religions will in time be internally displaced by this highly advanced ancient corporate entity - a take over is a take over- hostile or not.
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