Are There Any Places With Liberal Policies That Are Doing Well? (Clinton, Obama)
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You've completely missed what I'm saying and I'm not surprised.
I am a high tax paying citizen and more conservative voter today because I'm forced to pay for blue voters in my red state who take advantage of our social programs. The same groups who typically vote heavily blue also always seem to be the same groups that use a much higher percentage of social program money than their percentage of the population.
I vote blue and I pay taxes. Most of my friends vote blue and also pay taxes. I'm sure some of that money goes to social programs that benefit red voters. But that's ok with us because we are all in this together. Now rip me a new one.
Ithaca, NY is very liberal (maybe even the most liberal city in the country) and is doing quite well. Tompkins County, where Ithaca is located, has the lowest unemployment rate (5.6%) in NY. Nice community as well with friendly people and overall a beautiful area.
Ithaca, NY is very liberal (maybe even the most liberal city in the country) and is doing quite well. Tompkins County, where Ithaca is located, has the lowest unemployment rate (5.6%) in NY. Nice community as well with friendly people and overall a beautiful area.
Would you mind adopting a brother city... say Detroit, Baltimore, Gary and helping out a fellow Liberal ?
mind posting some proof that you are paying for blue voters and not red voters ?
The highest percentages of people on welfare and the groups with the highest consumption of social services money also just happen to be the same groups that make up Democrat voting blocks.
Blacks and Hispanics increasingly consume money from our welfare programs at higher rates than any other group in this country when you look at what percentage of the population they make up. Those same 2 groups continually vote for Democrat politicians who welcome their votes and promise them more social program money in return.
So lets agree on a few things, Do you agree that Blacks and Hispanics consume more social program money than any other groups based on percentage of population?
It wasn't a Republican war until Democrats realized in 2004 that they didn't have any divisive issues to run on, and the failed stimulus cost more than Bush's portion of the Iraq War.
Ronald Reagan is the father of supply side/trickle down economics, these are tax systems that give tax cuts to rich people and large corporations.
1. Carter had trivial deficits and debt.
2. Reagan did supply side tax cuts (and created huge deficits and debt.)
3. Clinton reversed Reagan's policies and created surpluses (Clinton paid down Americas debt.)
4. GW Bush turned Clintons surpluses into deficits and debt (with supply side tax cuts and a unneeded Iraq war.)
I vote blue and I pay taxes. Most of my friends vote blue and also pay taxes. I'm sure some of that money goes to social programs that benefit red voters. But that's ok with us because we are all in this together. Now rip me a new one.
The problem is we aren't all in this together. There are a lot of people out there who have no skin in the game whatsoever.
I saw a thread asking this of Conservative policies, and I thought I's ask it of Liberal policies. Are there any places worldwide with liberal policies in place that are thriving? It seems most bigger cities are heavily Liberal, and with them come higher crime rates, more pverty, higher unemployment, etc etc.
It's out politicians in Washington DC, they are destroying our country from within, because they live in their own little world of politics, where the welfare of the nation is not a priority with them.
The most important issue with Americans is improving the economy, creating jobs and controlling the debt and deficit, and then go look at what the priorities for the president and the Congress are.
Ronald Reagan is the father of supply side/trickle down economics, these are tax systems that give tax cuts to rich people and large corporations.
1. Carter had trivial deficits and debt.
2. Reagan did supply side tax cuts (and created huge deficits and debt.)
3. Clinton reversed Reagan's policies and created surpluses (Clinton paid down Americas debt.)
4. GW Bush turned Clintons surpluses into deficits and debt (with supply side tax cuts and a unneeded Iraq war.)
A little perspective is in order, 0bama has shown us what "huge deficits and debt" look like, Reagan's debt was minor by comparison. Reagan's policies created wealth and prosperity, 0bama's policies are causing debt, despair and poverty.
It's always curious to me that progs and dems always play that "Clinton surpluses" card, as if they think responsible federal spending is vital, while at the same time reelecting 0bama, and doing all they can to ignore his wild and reckless spending. You can't have it both ways, unless you are a politically partisan hack with no principles.
Canada, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway right off the top of my head. Strong economies, lower debt, lower homicide rates, lower infant mortality rates than us. Ans more cost-effective healthcare.
The Nordic come to mind first, but there are fundamental differences that make it difficult to truly compare them, they have far smaller, more manageable populations that are more homogenous, and they do not import huge numbers of legal/illegal uneducated, unskilled labor requiring massive outlays of public support. Denmark is also a good example of a thriving, social democratic experiment that while successful, could not be replicated by the US.
Let's also not forget how these EU countries and their taxpayers have basically handed off the responsibility for paying for a military to the US taxpayer, allowing them to provide, nice fat welfare/unemployment benefits for their citizenry. That's one of the reasons I laugh when I read about the far leftists whining about one or two billion in annual aid to Israel, when the US is spending 100 times that on aid to EU.
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