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Old 04-29-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by wutitiz View Post
OK can you cite one, just one, example of a private seller at a gun show selling a fully automatic firearm.

I guessed that you would fail to come up with even one example of a drug gangster buying a gun at a gun show, and I'm 99.999 percent sure that you will fail again to have an answer in this case.

Don't you get tired of fails?
This fully automatic firearm thing is a red herring. I never posted anything about fully automatic weapons being bought at gun shows. Foreigners, however, can buy practically any other kind of gun from a private seller at a gun show without any background check.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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Oh really? Several, if not all, of your links reported that there were "fully automatic firearms" being bought at gun shows and dealers in the US. So now, after falling back on these links to support your propaganda, are you admitting that they (and yes, the president of the United States) lies about the availability of "fully automatic firearms"?
Which links are those?
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Talking about private sellers at gun shows...private sellers at gun shows.....private sellers at gun shows.
And private sellers don;t have full auto AK-47's either. No full auto's no guns in mexico traced by the criminals at ATF to USA sources period.... None NADA, and if there were so what?

AK-47s are not High power rounds either. The UK link is a joke......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...gglers-mexico-

You don't buy full auto guns by the 100's for 21,000 bucks.... 21,000 bucks won't buy 2 guns period... Not from the USA......... 21,000 bucks might get you a pretty nice Thompson Sub machine gun maybe.... pretty nice means it works ok and some finish is left... of course you have to pay that 21,000 and then pay the 200 dollar tax and get signed off after a different back ground check with the cops....

Nothing you would know about, nothing that the 4473 form is about... The sniper rifles was cute too........ Any .308 any 60-06. any 8mm with a scope is able to shoot with a trained shooter to 1,2 yards or so. A really good shot might hit to 1/2 mile. Anything past that is luck.......

The 1 mile calling was fun to read.... I am sure most any English pantywaste could shoot 1 miles shots any day of the week straight up..

No one can debate you, since none of this is remotely reasonable. This is nothing but made up fantasy....And the fox guarding the hen house.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Because it is so easy to get them here.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This fully automatic firearm thing is a red herring. I never posted anything about fully automatic weapons being bought at gun shows. Foreigners, however, can buy practically any other kind of gun from a private seller at a gun show without any background check.
From your post #88

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You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle,
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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If there is full auto Ak-47's in mexico they are not coming from the USA...... Columbia maybe where they are very popular and where drug cartels live...... it is laughable that this is blamed in mom and pop gun dealers....

The only full auto guns that got into mexico from the USA went there via BATFE and Obama. These are the only guns that went to mexico and that was signed off by Obama and the ATF.

But nothing will happen to Obama.....
Amazon.com: DE Metal AK47 Full Automatic AEG 415 FPS: Sports & Outdoors
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Which links are those?
Starting with this one: NPR.org » U.S. Guns Blamed For Fueling Violence In Mexico which refers to assaut rifles (not assault weapons, a bogus term). Assault rifles are by definition automatics.

Or this one: Guns from U.S. equip drug cartels - Los Angeles Times
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High-powered automatic weapons and ammunition are flowing virtually unchecked from border states into Mexico, fueling a war among drug traffickers, the army and police that has left thousands dead, according to U.S. and Mexican officials.
Or this: The far-right line on guns gets unwelcome endorsement - The Maddow Blog
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"America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?"
U.S. Guns Behind Cartel Killings in Mexico
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TIJUANA, Mexico -- Assassins blasted Ricardo BullBoxer31 Alvarado, a member of an elite state police force, with a blizzard of bullets pumped out of AK-47 assault rifles.

Alvarado crumpled at the wheel of his sedan, yet another victim of the weapons known here as "goat's horns" because of their curved ammunition clips, and which can fire at a rate of 600 rounds per minute. The killing, Mexican authorities said, was a panorama of blood, shattered glass and torn metal that brutally showcased the firepower of Mexico's drug cartels. But that was just the warm-up.
(the only Kalashnikov rifles that fire "at a rate of 600 rounds per minute" are fully automatic. These weapons are made and sold commonly...in many Latin American countries, from various groups, as pointed out. You can not walk out with one at any gun show or dealer in the US.)

But hey, don't let the truth ruin a good rant. Our lying president doesn't; he referred to the firearm used as Sandy Hook as a "fully automatic" one. You would really think the commander in chief of the US military would be a bit less ignorant, wouldn't you?
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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From your post #88
Those are not my words. Rather a quote from an Al-Qaeda terrorist who is very pleased about the easy process to purchase guns here in the US without any background checks. I guess the word is getting around.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:39 PM
 
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ROFL.

That is a TOY!

From your link:

"It is a FULL replica of the Marui AK47; EVERY PIECE is basically identical! COMES BRAND NEW in the box with battery, charger, instructions, bbs and a 500-round high capacity AK47 magazine."
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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LOL! Good one. I'm sure you realize that that's a toy, specifically an Airsoft gun, one that fires little plastic balls and not bullets. I'm sure you meant it in jest, you're not ignorant after all. But some reading these threads...just might be that uninformed. Heck, someone here might be a writer for Huffpost or BSNBC and take what you wrote as fact.

Or maybe those were the "fully automatic weapons" that the president was referring to. Must be, he was telling a funny! Otherwise one would have to conclude that he was either grossly ignorant...or a liar.
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