Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Why do non-unionized people whine at the benefits union personnel have?
I was not whining.
I was pointing out a fact that many union supporters have such low self esteem that they feel that their labor is worth minimum wage, so they need someone to fight for them.
BTW....the highest paid people I know are non-union.
I was pointing out a fact that many union supporters have such low self esteem that they feel that their labor is worth minimum wage, so they need someone to fight for them.
Are you that insecure about your ability that you think that without union support your labor isn't valued?
I am glad that I was instilled with the self confidence of knowing that I don't need someone to negotiate my worth for me.
There's a lot more to it than wages but I think you know that.
I make good money (IBEW member) working for a public utility. I wouldn't be here if not for the money. I would probably be running my own business building/remodeling houses which is my real passion. But the wages and benefits are great as is the pension so I do the building work on the side.
The union just is, I didn't start it but I pay the dues. For me it's great and I would not want to be in the job I'm in and not be protected. I've seen this company lay off really good managers just because they didn't kiss enough butt. I've seen them send out lay off notices the day before Thanksgiving in email to their non union people.
They haven't laid off a union person in 80 years. Pension is guaranteed. For me that's worth $68 a month.
I don't know what others think, I doubt they are thinking along the same lines as you, but I doubt even you would put up with working in a physically intensive job for 14 hours with enough pay to buy several loaves of bread, crappy shoes and low quality clothes while living in a high rise roach motel. This country did not become the great country that it is today on Mexican or Chinese wages, that much I do know
Take a look at your calendar. Is today April 30, 1930?
There's a lot more to it than wages but I think you know that.
I make good money (IBEW member) working for a public utility. I wouldn't be here if not for the money. I would probably be running my own business building/remodeling houses which is my real passion. But the wages and benefits are great as is the pension so I do the building work on the side.
The union just is, I didn't start it but I pay the dues. For me it's great and I would not want to be in the job I'm in and not be protected. I've seen this company lay off really good managers just because they didn't kiss enough butt. I've seen them send out lay off notices the day before Thanksgiving in email to their non union people.
They haven't laid off a union person in 80 years. Pension is guaranteed. For me that's worth $68 a month.
That is pretty disgusting. You mean to say that the company is so inefficient that people can sit around doing less than they should and not have to worry about being laid off? In what universe will that produce a high-quality product?
Unions reward their members at the expense of society as a whole.
Exactly why I have a problem with most unions. Employees who do not have a good work ethic and do not contribute to the success of the company (or public entity) will still be protected. And don't try to tell me that you don't have those type of folks.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
