1 seizure per 143 stops for blacks; 1 for 27 for whites. (statistics, highway, Michigan)

[Californian34]

Originally Posted by Wapasha

Looks like the police are cutting a lot of slack and letting blacks go free, while not allowing the same relaxed policy against whites.

ok yes, even the blacks who don't get arrested are probably guilty of something. the police don't want to arrest them, they just want to feel them up.

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by C. Maurio

Everybody should go free unless they are found to be carrying something dangerous. Marijuana for personal use is not dangerous. Write them a court citation and send them on their way.

MJ for personal use isn't a crime in NYC as long as it is under a certain amount and out of sight. The problem is that when the cops take it out of your pocket it is now in public sight and a ticket-able offense. In other words, in order to comply with the law you have to break the law. Pretty f'ed up, IMO.

[KUchief25]

Were they frisking folks for big gulps??

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by Californian34

ok yes, even the blacks who don't get arrested are probably guilty of something. the police don't want to arrest them, they just want to feel them up.

I was just offering another way of looking at the data.

You'd probably cry foul either way. If more blacks were arrested then whites, you'd cry foul. If more whites were frisked and a higher percentage set free, and fewer blacks were frisked and a higher percentage arrested, you'd cry foul.

[The Dark Enlightenment]

Originally Posted by Californian34

Appalling. The NYPD made the same amount of seizures stopping only 435,000 white people as they did stopping 2.3 Million black people in the in the same 8 years. Stop and frisk is obviously a way of harassing people of color in NYC.

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Harassing blacks into leaving the city is good for property values. NYC is so rich and so liberal that the normal restrictions on racist behavior don't seem to apply.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by Californian34

I don't think it matters if a Rep, Dem, or Independent like Bloomberg is mayor, this is part of the police culture.

You forget the history of NY. Giulliani was under heavy attack until 9-11 made him bullet proof.

I'm not denying it's part of police culture in some places, just that the backlash is muted due to political concerns. Apples and Oranges.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

Harassing blacks into leaving the city is good for property values. NYC is so rich and so liberal that the normal restrictions on racist behavior don't seem to apply.

How is it good for Black people? Better yet, how would it be good for ME? Are Black people that unwanted?

[slasher11]

They'd have to have been given a reason to pass and practice stop and frisk. Otherwise it wouldn't be law.

Cause and effect. Cause and effect.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

You forget the history of NY. Giulliani was under heavy attack until 9-11 made him bullet proof.

I'm not denying it's part of police culture in some places, just that the backlash is muted due to political concerns. Apples and Oranges.

I never knew that about Giuliani. I knew he was tough on crime, but that was as far as I knew.

[The Dark Enlightenment]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

How is it good for Black people?

It isn't.