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Old 05-14-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Another accidental shooting occurred on Monday--this time in Aurora, the site of the movie theater shooting last July. An employee of Colorado’s Rangeview High School accidentally shot a student after school had been dismissed, the local news outlet 9 News reported.


The school employee and the student knew each other. The employee works a second job as an armed security officer, and was giving the student a ride home. While moving his gun to the glove box in his car, the firearm accidentally went off and shot the student, who suffered an injury to his leg but will survive, according to police.



The incident is a sharp reminder that, despite calls for more armed guards in schools, guns in and around educational institutions could easily lead to disaster.
Student Shot by School Employee, As Conservatives Call for More Guns on Campus | Alternet

And in Aurora, Colorado, of all places.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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Then why do they have many guns around the President etc.? For crying out loud, they have real assault weapons around the President!!! I would fully support a law that ban all guns around the President and etc.. Let's do that first then we look after our school.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: MS
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While moving his gun to the glove box in his car, the firearm accidentally went off
That was not an accident, that was a negligent discharge. With proper handling of a firearm, this does not happen. The "shooter" should be charged with the appropriate level of crime by the district attorney.

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shooting that occurred in the parking lot of Rangeview High School
Do the current laws in CO allow him to even bring the gun on to the campus? If not, then he was not following his training as a security officer.

I'm all for arming anyone who wants to be armed but they all need to take full responsibility for any negative consequences that happen as well.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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geez, lets get guns away from the police because we certainly dont want those wonderful first responders accidentally shooting one another!


face palm...
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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I don't know about you guys, but as much as I liked and admired (most of) my elementary school teachers, the thought of them being armed gives me the heebie-jeebies. (Would have done wonders for my German grammar if Mr. Dygaard had been armed, admittedly. That guy had a temper...)
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Really? This is your argument against arming school staff? A negligent discharge of a weapon that the owner was storing in the glove box, more than likely because guns aren't allowed on school grounds. Had he not been moving the firearm in order to place it in the glove box, chances are the firearm wouldn't have discharged in the first place. But nooooo, responsible adults can't be trusted to carry a firearm, even if (as in this case) they carry a firearm as part of their job.

Meanwhile, we send our children to "Gun Free Zones" every day because some idiot politicians got together a couple of decades ago and decided that nut jobs with firearms would respect a sign that says "No Guns Allowed." News flash: since the passage of the GFZA, school shootings have doubled. What does that tell you about the safety of our children?
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:55 PM
 
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I don't know about you guys, but as much as I liked and admired (most of) my elementary school teachers, the thought of them being armed gives me the heebie-jeebies. (Would have done wonders for my German grammar if Mr. Dygaard had been armed, admittedly. That guy had a temper...)
LOL. I had a couple of teachers that I certainly would NOT have wanted armed after I got the all fired up.... of course had they been armed, my behavior might have been better?



What I want is schools to have some (not all) teachers that are properly screened, trained and lawfully deputized as law enforcement officers. I want them to be paid additionally for their work as law enforcement in addition to their work as educators. I want the training to be on-going, as it is with law enforcement, and as it is with teachers.

As a parent of children at the beginning of their years in education, I would feel far safer, knowing that there are trained law enforcement professionals in proximity to my children
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: texas
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Why isn't arming teachers and staff "reactionary" to the events at Aroura, and Sandyhook?

If people are saying that restrictions and further regulations are reactionary...why isn't arming staff just as?

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Old 05-14-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Then why do they have many guns around the President etc.? For crying out loud, they have real assault weapons around the President!!! I would fully support a law that ban all guns around the President and etc.. Let's do that first then we look after our school.
Oh....I don't know.

Maybe because the security surrounding the president and his family are highly trained professionals and are there because there are far more specific threats to the president than to your typical classroom?

Maybe because the security personnel who surround the president have worked and trained for that position for years and years and aren't just some idiot part time rent-a-cop?

How about this? We either do more to keep the guns out of the idiots' hands (such as that school security guard) or we make sure that anybody who carries a gun onto a school campus is as well-trained as the Secret Service.

Not EVERYONE should be allowed to have a gun (let alone have it around our school children) - despite what you and Wayne LaPierre think.

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Old 05-14-2013, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You know, a guy at work was using a nail gun, and accidently shot a nail thru his hand. Accidents happen, and when they do, people get hurt (and some even die). The idea of suggesting every construction worker go back to a hammer and nail might prevent this accident from happening in the future, but it wouldn't happen if he'd been attentive of where he put his hand.
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