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Old 09-09-2013, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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2014/2016 is coming...all we can do is watch, vote and wait...
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:13 PM
 
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If you have doubt, how can we possibly have a passion for, real liberty for all?
Do we not wish everyone had all their god given liberties back, that have slowly been taken to serve the Government? Hell, the government is suppose to serve me.

Will the poor ever regain the property rights that the Founders intended them to have? Nah, the new libertarian GOP isn't quite THAT libertarian.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:15 PM
 
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Will the poor ever regain the property rights that the Founders intended them to have? Nah, the new libertarian GOP isn't quite THAT libertarian.
Are the dems?
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:02 AM
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Location: Florida
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The neo-cons, faux-libertarians and other right-wingers have indeed driven the GOP so far out into right field that it left a gaping abyss in the middle, and so consequently the Democratic Party has moved to the center, and therefore currently is probably not inclined to do much more than half-measures toward relieving the structural poverty on which our economy is currently dependent. However, half-measures (such as ACA instead of true universal healthcare) are better than no measures, and far better than the active promulgation of further structural poverty, exploitation and perhaps even a second doubling of economic inequality, which neo-cons, faux-libertarians and other right-wingers support.

The hope must be that the abject self-centeredness of the neo-cons, faux-libertarians and other right-wingers can eventually be soundly discredited, and that that will return the GOP to where it once was, when it was a reputable political perspective. The movement toward the center will free up the Democratic Party to return more strongly to its most important role, as the agent of progress in our society, helping our nation down the path toward greater economic and social justice.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Yeah Rand Paul will take the Dems Apart in 2016, now a Rand Paul/Ted Cruz ticket that would be a Juggernaut.
Like his daddy did three times, oh wait, never mind. Maybe if you are into crackpots and anchor babies.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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Are the dems?

Of course not, but they're hopeless.
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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Of course not, but they're hopeless.
That they are, but they have an army of brain dead fools who will vote from them no matter what.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: North America
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A libertarian GOP would surely be more palatable to the independents.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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The neo-cons, faux-libertarians and other right-wingers have indeed driven the GOP so far out into right field that it left a gaping abyss in the middle, and so consequently the Democratic Party has moved to the center, and therefore currently is probably not inclined to do much more than half-measures toward relieving the structural poverty on which our economy is currently dependent. However, half-measures (such as ACA instead of true universal healthcare) are better than no measures, and far better than the active promulgation of further structural poverty, exploitation and perhaps even a second doubling of economic inequality, which neo-cons, faux-libertarians and other right-wingers support.

The hope must be that the abject self-centeredness of the neo-cons, faux-libertarians and other right-wingers can eventually be soundly discredited, and that that will return the GOP to where it once was, when it was a reputable political perspective. The movement toward the center will free up the Democratic Party to return more strongly to its most important role, as the agent of progress in our society, helping our nation down the path toward greater economic and social justice.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


If anything, they have moved more left!
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:51 AM
 
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After they stuffed a once Democrat, with Progressive values, in front of the Republicans in 2008 and said vote for this guy...... the Republican party has had a battle from within.

The people that are the voters saw it first hand. 2010 Mid Terms happened...... Outted in many primaries, the Republican party started to cull the Good `ol Boys, with the voice of the peoples vote.

Then the they did it again with a self admitted and I quote, " I'm a PROGRESSIVE Republican, and more good `ol Boys didn't make it past the primaries.

2012 saw many States turn GOP offices, to a more Constitutional view of the office, putting the career GOP hacks in the states, out to pasture.


We have always wondered, why we always got the same thing, no matter which party held the control.
Both party's evolved into the same thing... Progressive, with the Constitution standing in the way of their grand plans for a One World Order.


Now we have those standing up for the Constitution, the very chains the founders of this nation placed on the federal government so WE THE PEOPLE remained free with Liberty for ALL, gaining ground within the party that once stood for individual freedom. The blowback from the Progressives in both parties is telling us we are on the right track.
horrible logic and vast excuse making for the tea baggers almost bringing this country to the brink!

you lost, deal with it!
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