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Old 05-05-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Many European nations have official state religion (Christianity) - how many times in these nations have you heard they persecute, behead, and kill non-Christians?

Stop making all religions seem bad.
It's hard to look at religions like Hinduism and Buddhism and proclaim them to be bad. But they are unnecessary and problematic. They make it seem like those with different beliefs are wrong.

 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Many European nations have official state religion (Christianity) - how many times in these nations have you heard they persecute, behead, and kill non-Christians?

Stop making all religions seem bad.

Is there a difference between having a "state religion" and a theocracy? Remember when the Catholic church had so much power in Europe?

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One of Germany’s highest courts rankled Catholic bishops by ruling that the state recognized the right of Catholics to leave the church — and therefore avoid paying a tax that is used to support religious institutions. The court ruled it was a matter of religious freedom, while religious leaders saw the decision as yet another threat to their influence on modern German society.
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The Catholic Bishops’ Conference in Germany issued a crystal clear, uncompromising edict, endorsed by the Vatican. It detailed that a member who refuses to pay taxes will no longer be allowed to receive communion or make confession, to serve as godparents or to hold any office in the church. Those who leave can also be refused a Christian burial, unless they “give some sign of repentance,” it read.
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In Belgium, Greece and Norway, churches are financed by the state. Churches in Austria, Switzerland and Sweden all use the state to collect taxes from members, but the contributions are either predetermined amounts or, compared with Germany, a more modest 1 to 2 percent of the annual assessed income tax. Spain and Italy allow congregants to decide whether they would like a percentage of their income to flow to religious organizations or be earmarked for civic projects
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/06/wo...anted=all&_r=0

Geeze! What do you think happened to these people in the Dark Ages?
 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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Do Christans practice this if so tell me were.....
Read this:

Top 10 Shameful Moments in Catholic History - Listverse
 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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A person got their fingers shredded for reading the Christian Bible in Saudi Arabia...

Very sad and disgusting Imagine when we get a small cut...

The Punishment for reading a Bible in Saudi Arabia (photo) | <<< Image!

No freedom of religion in the Islamic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
doesn't the West and Obama still give aid money to Saudi?

can anyone explain why
 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:23 PM
 
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What may have happened centuries and even millenials ago is irrevelant today. Nice try though
 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:26 PM
 
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Can you show us where that is happening today? Why don't we just deal with what is going on now and not go back into ancient history to justify what is happening to people now. How does that help?
I am pretty sure it was the Christian church that perfected the art of burning alive on the stake.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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What may have happened centuries and even millenials ago is irrevelant today. Nice try though
Why is it irrelevant? I find it curious how Christians not only denounce the old testament but the history of their religion as well.

As for the new testament, didn't Peter take out a husband and wife for holding out some money they had from selling their land? Acts 5:1-11
 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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didn't Jesus also say 'a slave should respect his master'

No thanks!
 
Old 05-05-2013, 10:59 PM
 
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didn't Jesus also say 'a slave should respect his master'

No thanks!
Yet you do it everyday.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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How so - you mean at work?

That is not slavery BTW.
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